The Odyssey trailer 2 (full trailer)

[NetflixAndClone]

I think that it is interesting that they used a Viking draken long ship instead of a trireme. I can understand that finding ancient ships can be difficult but modern recreations of Greek triremes exist and you don't need to use a completely foreign ship. they could've at least attempted to make the longship look more like a trireme. Small potatoes in the terms of gripes but this reeks of Ridley Scott's smugness of Napolean where he thought being accurate to the setting is dumb. Like who told Scott trench warfare was a thing of the Napoleonic era?

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[clone52]

I dunno, I was pumped until I heard some of the modern dialogue like "dad and daddy". Sounds weird for a movie like this. I still want to see it, but my excitement took a hit. I just watched The Return with Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Benoche and it felt more on par. We will see what happens, I guess.

Or, you know, English words at all.

 

[bos]

I think that it is interesting that they used a Viking draken long ship instead of a trireme. I can understand that finding ancient ships can be difficult but modern recreations of Greek triremes exist and you don't need to use a completely foreign ship. they could've at least attempted to make the longship look more like a trireme. Small potatoes in the terms of gripes but this reeks of Ridley Scott's smugness of Napolean where he thought being accurate to the setting is dumb. Like who told Scott trench warfare was a thing of the Napoleonic era?

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I love your dedication to this. Sincerely, this is great stuff.

 

[bos]

Or, you know, English words at all.

Teaching everyone Greek in the cast would be quite a feat. I suppose they could have hired Greek actors.

 

[clone52]

Teaching everyone Greek in the cast would be quite a feat. I suppose they could have hired Greek actors.

Oh I know, but the terms "dad" and "daddy" aren't really modern. It started way back in the 16th century.

 

[bos]

Oh I know, but the terms "dad" and "daddy" aren't really modern. It started way back in the 16th century.

Father seems more formal and isnt as off-putting as daddy in a serious sandles movie to me. This is more like it was written by a fan fiction writer aiming at teens. We dont have it in full context of a scene, but it just landed weird in the trailer.

 

[KidSilverhair]

 

[clone52]

I think that it is interesting that they used a Viking draken long ship instead of a trireme. I can understand that finding ancient ships can be difficult but modern recreations of Greek triremes exist and you don't need to use a completely foreign ship. they could've at least attempted to make the longship look more like a trireme. Small potatoes in the terms of gripes but this reeks of Ridley Scott's smugness of Napolean where he thought being accurate to the setting is dumb. Like who told Scott trench warfare was a thing of the Napoleonic era?

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I love this type of analysis, thank you for it. It piqued my interest.

Sounds like triremes, biremes and uniremes were a few centuries after the Trojan war. Just from alleged pictures, the Viking draken longships don't look much different than Minoan ships that were more likely to be used during the Trojan war.

 

[BryceC]

I hate when they take an absolute classic and have the hubris to think that they can improve it with some special spin on their own.

I’ve read the Iliad and odyssey and honestly I didn’t find them that entertaining.

And we update ancient texts to more modern speech all the time.

 

[Sigmapolis]

 

[ISUTex]

Everybody knows the ancient Romans all had British accents. I didn't know the Greeks had American accents. Are we Greek?

 

[Bipolarcy]

I hate when they take an absolute classic and have the hubris to think that they can improve it with some special spin on their own.

Or worse yet, take a classic and remake it with absolutely zero changes.

 

[harimad]

I think that it is interesting that they used a Viking draken long ship instead of a trireme. I can understand that finding ancient ships can be difficult but modern recreations of Greek triremes exist and you don't need to use a completely foreign ship. they could've at least attempted to make the longship look more like a trireme. Small potatoes in the terms of gripes but this reeks of Ridley Scott's smugness of Napolean where he thought being accurate to the setting is dumb. Like who told Scott trench warfare was a thing of the Napoleonic era?

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I haven’t seen the movie so I don’t have the full context- but weren’t trenches/redoubts used quite a bit back then? Yorktown had them and was only like 20ish years before Napoleon.

 

[isufbcurt]

Hearing "dad" really threw me out of the moment in the trailer. I assume it will feel a lot more organic in the actual movie.

Really? I wouldn't have even noticed something like that is it wasn't brought up here. But then I watch movies for entertainment and not to nit pick them apart.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

IDK how I feel about Matt Damon and the modern language used there. I will suspend judgement until I see it. Visually it's everything I hoped for.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Love me some Nolan.

Love me some high fantasy/mythology.

Love me the source material.

Love me... some... of the cast. Mostly Robert Pattinson, ironically, who has become an excellent character actor after he shook the unfortunate association with Edward and Twilight.

But this trailer doesn't make me think the pieces would hold together.

The definitive version of The Odyssey on film will forever be Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? for so many reasons. And most scholars nowadays think absurdist/comedic is the correct way to read the source material instead of as some tragic war epic in the way one would read The Iliad or The Aeneid.

Curious if you have read Circe by Madeline Miller? It's a wonderful book, and its somewhat about the Odyssey but seen through a different perspective with a wider viewing angle.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

I haven’t seen the movie so I don’t have the full context- but weren’t trenches/redoubts used quite a bit back then? Yorktown had them and was only like 20ish years before Napoleon.

Not in a battle like waterloo, There is a good youtube video i watched about it. In a siege sure, but when it comes to a land engagement an army would just go around you. Armies were just too mobile and the large point of combat in the 18-19th century was trying to catch armies in a disadvantaged position. No reason you would ever charge into a dug in army. Like if you read about american civil war battles its a game of cat and mouse of trying to chase each other down.

 

[BurgundyClone]

Curious if you have read Circe by Madeline Miller? It's a wonderful book, and its somewhat about the Odyssey but seen through a different perspective with a wider viewing angle.

I loved it (Circe)

 

[jcf817]

Really? I wouldn't have even noticed something like that is it wasn't brought up here. But then I watch movies for entertainment and not to nit pick them apart.

I'm not nitpicking. It caught my ear and I focused on that for a few moments and missed part of the trailer. Hence the phrase, "threw me out of the moment". I honestly don't give a ****. It was simply unexpected.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I'm not nitpicking. It caught my ear and I focused on that for a few moments and missed part of the trailer. Hence the phrase, "threw me out of the moment". I honestly don't give a ****. It was simply unexpected.

Ya it stood out for me as well.