Did all the FB Transfers find a home?

The Ped State schedule this year is embarrassing. The B1G should be ashamed of themselves putting that together. They might not face a ranked team the entire year. That's nearly impossible to do in a P4 conference. (Iowa: Hold my beer).

That's the benefit of bigger conferences. Your name brand schools only play 1-2 of the other top 1/4 of schools in your conference. The rest are mediocre at best. This can be justified by the scheduling arrangements so that you play every school every 4 years or something like that.
 
You'd really have to break down every play to compare the two, but if you list just the big runs, you can make theh same argument about HHansen. Runs of 65, 38, 28, 24 and 25 really skewed his stats as well. Sama's top 5 were 44, 40, 38, 28 and 20.

Take out each of their top 5 longest play (1 per game) and Sama averaged 4.16 yards per carry. Hansen averaged 4.21 yards per carry. Still very close.

Overall, Hansen lossed 21 yards on the season. Sama lost 33 yards on the. With fewer carries, Sama was prone to more yardage lost, but it was not a huge number for either of them.

I'm not saying Sama was better than Hansen but I do really agree with folks in thinking Sama's flaws were way overblown. He was a pretty darn good RB too.
Compared to who, was he Breece Hall or Montgomery good, no, not even close. He was an average college back all but a couple of games. He still suffers from seeing the hole and wanting to bounce everything instead of hitting the hole and taking a few yards on the carry, That is what Hansen did a great job there, when there was not much of a hole, he still plowed forward to get yards.
Sama is what he is and many of us thought he would improve with more playing time and more carries and he really never did. Not a bad running back, but also not someone that you would want 30 carries a game with either.
 
Compared to who, was he Breece Hall or Montgomery good, no, not even close. He was an average college back all but a couple of games. He still suffers from seeing the hole and wanting to bounce everything instead of hitting the hole and taking a few yards on the carry, That is what Hansen did a great job there, when there was not much of a hole, he still plowed forward to get yards.
Sama is what he is and many of us thought he would improve with more playing time and more carries and he really never did. Not a bad running back, but also not someone that you would want 30 carries a game with either.
Just comparing Sama to Hanson (and just out of curiousity, not purposely trying to argue with you or anyone). I don't believe Hanson was so much better at just diving forward and getting a few years than Sama was. Would need to really plot every carry of both players all season long to really see if that was true or not. At least I'd love to how many negative carries, how many between 0-5 yards, how many between 5-10 yards, etc.

The fact that Sama only lost 33 yards all season long is pretty strong evidence that he wasn't a disaster from that standpoint. Hanson only lost 21 yards (on more carries), so he was better, but I don't think that is a huge difference.

Also showed that Sama's yards per carry aren't boosted by big gains any more than Hansen's were.

Lost Yards/Total Carries (Not sure if this is a stat that actually means anything, but I was curious)
Sama 2025 = 0.24
Hansen 2025 = 0.11
Sama 2024 = 0.34
Hanson 2024 = 0.09
Sama 2023 = 0.38
Sanders 2023 = 0.21
Norton 2023 = 0.31
Brock 2022 = 0.15
Norton 2022 = 0.27
Breece 2021 = 0.27
Breece 2020 = 0.21
Nwangwu 2020 = 0.20
Breece 2019 = 0.32
Montgomery 2018 = 0.15
Montgomery 2017 = 0.20
Montgomery 2016 = 0.15
Warren 2016 = 0.13

If that means anything, then Hansen is really good, but Sama improved a LOT in 2025 and that stat is not really a good indicator of an elite RB, thats for sure.
 
Just comparing Sama to Hanson (and just out of curiousity, not purposely trying to argue with you or anyone). I don't believe Hanson was so much better at just diving forward and getting a few years than Sama was. Would need to really plot every carry of both players all season long to really see if that was true or not. At least I'd love to how many negative carries, how many between 0-5 yards, how many between 5-10 yards, etc.

The fact that Sama only lost 33 yards all season long is pretty strong evidence that he wasn't a disaster from that standpoint. Hanson only lost 21 yards (on more carries), so he was better, but I don't think that is a huge difference.

Also showed that Sama's yards per carry aren't boosted by big gains any more than Hansen's were.

Lost Yards/Total Carries (Not sure if this is a stat that actually means anything, but I was curious)
Sama 2025 = 0.24
Hansen 2025 = 0.11
Sama 2024 = 0.34
Hanson 2024 = 0.09
Sama 2023 = 0.38
Sanders 2023 = 0.21
Norton 2023 = 0.31
Brock 2022 = 0.15
Norton 2022 = 0.27
Breece 2021 = 0.27
Breece 2020 = 0.21
Nwangwu 2020 = 0.20
Breece 2019 = 0.32
Montgomery 2018 = 0.15
Montgomery 2017 = 0.20
Montgomery 2016 = 0.15
Warren 2016 = 0.13

If that means anything, then Hansen is really good, but Sama improved a LOT in 2025 and that stat is not really a good indicator of an elite RB, thats for sure.
Sometimes stats can fool a person when you rely on them too much. Watching Hall and Montgomery running you could see they had it as a running back and both have gone on to the NFL and been successful. Sama after that first game against KSU in the snow we all thought he was going to join the other two as a very valuable weapon, and it just never occurred. It was telling that Hanson was starting and getting more carries as the season went on, instead of Sama, the staff had made their decision on which back they wanted to get the most carries and it was Hanson.

I am not ripping on Sama and hope he has a great year at Minnesota, but if I could have taken either one back for the season, it would be Hanson and not Sama for this year. We know that Hanson went to Penn. State with Campbell, was Sama offered that opportunity and chose not to take it or was it not offered?
 
Not really, when you look at his stats, he would have one large run a game, and then do nothing for many of his runs. He had runs of 44, 20, 28, 38 and 40, those runs really skewed his overall performance. When he didn't break off the long run in the other half of the games he was held in check. He finished the season with 140 for 732 and 5.2 average with 5 touchdowns. He only had one game over a hundred yards rushing, 177 and another at 96.

This describes every running back ever.
 
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Not really, a back like Hall got plenty of 10 to 15 yard runs and then would break one for 75 to 80 yards. For an average back like Sama it was a lot of 2 and 3 yard carries and then a 45 yard run. That is a big difference between a good running back and a great one. Sama never scared a defensive coordinator, backs like Hall do. I would say the same thing about the EIU running back a few years ago, he would just wear you out and then break a long run for a touchdown. Sama had 5 touchdowns all of last year, he is what he is, a nice 2nd running back option but not a leading character on the team.
 
Sama improved last year, was a solid back. Not as much bouncing. More physically talented than Hansen, but imo current vision will hamper a potential NFL career. Maybe Wisconsin will be the next step for him. I'm curious if his physical skills (burst, change of direction) fit defense better. Look at Porter. Or for the old heads out there, Billups.

A rudimentary comparison of Sama and Hansen in 12 games (minus their longest run):

KSU: Sama 13 carries for 29 yards (2.2 avg), Hansen (3.5 avg)
SD: Sama 2 for 8 (4.0), Hansen (1.9)
IA: Sama 11 for 36 (3.3), Hansen (3.5)

ArkSt: Sama 8 for 25 (3.1), Hansen (4.6)
AZ: Sama 11 for 15 (1.4), Hansen (3.0)
Cin: Sama 17 for 76 (4.5), Hansen (4.8)

CU: Sama 23 for 139 (6.0), Hansen (N/A - INJURED)
BYU: Sama 8 for 35 (4.4), Hansen (5.8)
ASU: Sama 1 for 3 (3.0), Hansen (5.0)

TCU: Sama 6 for 22 (3.7), Hansen (3.1)
KU: Sama 18 for 43 (2.4), Hansen (4.0)
OSU: Sama 10 for 47 (4.7), Hansen (4.0)


With Sama, ignore the SD and ASU games. Not enough carries. Hansen missed CU game. That leaves 8 games to compare the vibes:

Sama wins: TCU and OSU
Hansen wins: KSU, ArkSt, AZ, BYU, KU
Similar: Iowa, Cincy


Sama = clearly better in only two games, plus Colorado - which I'm still not sure how we lost that one. That aligns with my casual eye test. Would love to see median carry along with advanced stats as well. I think Hansen is more of a finished product, which Sama still has a chance to take another jump next year.

They were a solid one, two punch. Spoiled by Breece, Monty, and Mitchell Harger among others.
 
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If PSU wins 10+ games, it’s pretty obvious the Big 10 isn’t this amazing conference compared to the supposed lesser conferences. That exact time roster could only win 8 games in the Bug 12.
Psu roster is not ISU last year roster at all

Psu has the best of ISU plus the rest of their roster is as good or better vs ISU players that did not go there. So overall more ranked and depth of talent than ISU had. Campbell needs the ISU players to lead the culture, fill gaps, and some will have major roles but it is not like psu had way worse talent than ISU to start with.
 
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Psu roster is not ISU last year roster at all

Psu has the best of ISU plus the rest of their roster is as good or better vs ISU players that did not go there. So overall more ranked and depth of talent than ISU had. Campbell needs the ISU players to lead the culture, fill gaps, and some will have major roles but it is not like psu had way worse talent than ISU to start with.
People forget that Penn State was one of the favorites going into last season to win the championship. Now it did all go sideways, but they had a lot of talent on that team, it just did not translate into wins.
started the year 3-0, then lost to Oregon and a bad UCLA team on the road and just looked lost for 6 weeks, but they did turn it around and won their last 4 games which included their bowl game. They started the season as the #2 ranked team in the nation.
 
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After having watched ENDLESS NFL highly paid analyst's predictions for decades (think qb's in particular),
nobody knows s*** to the point of BEYOND embarrassment.
(Hey Brock)!
I don't know s***, but me thinks, minus a Mel Kiper paycheck, Abu has next level within.
Judging his tenure here?
Nah.
 
He averaged 5.2 ypc. You don’t get there if you’re taking “a ton” of negative or 1–2 yard runs. That kind of inefficiency would drag that down quick.

The whole “bouncing everything outside” narrative feels a bit overdone too, especially this past year. His sophomore year, sure, but last year he was much more north-south.

Was his vision perfect? No. But he was still a very efficient back who gave us a ton of positive production. Feels like people remember the frustrating reps and ignore the overall output.
Watching from a well elevated position above the play: how could he not see that the play wasn't there, he doesn't have good vision. Lol.
 
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Feels like everyone labeled him early in his sophomore year and didn’t notice the improvement he made last year. Roehl cut his carries as a sophomore and Sama learned from it. He was a very good back last year. I wish he would have returned to Iowa State because I think he is going to have a big year.

Agreed, he made a huge jump. Wouldn’t be shocked at all to see him in the NFL after Wisconsin.
 
Psu roster is not ISU last year roster at all

Psu has the best of ISU plus the rest of their roster is as good or better vs ISU players that did not go there. So overall more ranked and depth of talent than ISU had. Campbell needs the ISU players to lead the culture, fill gaps, and some will have major roles but it is not like psu had way worse talent than ISU to start with.
I realize, but the Big 10 pushes false narratives all the time. Let’s do the same.
 
The only players I can't seem to find a transfer destination for

Michael Parkes
Daniel Jackson
Dyllan Malone (I believe he was looking at JUCO)
Derek Jensen
Jace Gilbert (K)
 
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Are you saying that you don’t think Rocco will start this year? Wasn’t sure what you were getting at? I think we all know he wasn’t good enough for the NFL.
He’s a grown man having spite for a 21 year old making is own life decisions
 
Many of us thought he would develop more than what he did. It looked like his vision really never improved, and kept wanting to bounce the run around the corner instead of just hitting the hole and trusting his speed. Now he was better at that towards the end of the season, but as many times he ran the ball, he had a lot of negative and 1 or 2 yard runs.
Great speed, but too often liked to go 1 on 11 costing first downs. Averages don't tell you everything. Unless you take it to the house every time you get downfield I'll take a runner whose mode is 4-5 yards over a player with a mean of 5 yards. 18, -2, 1, 3 gets you a 5-yard mean, and a punt. I'd like to see yardage gain numbers by the yard for the season. For example, how many 1 yard gains did each have, 2 yard gains, etc. I think you would see that stats skewed heavily in the 1-3 yard range for Sama. A high number of 4-to-5-yard gains controls the ball and wins games.
 
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Psu roster is not ISU last year roster at all

Psu has the best of ISU plus the rest of their roster is as good or better vs ISU players that did not go there. So overall more ranked and depth of talent than ISU had. Campbell needs the ISU players to lead the culture, fill gaps, and some will have major roles but it is not like psu had way worse talent than ISU to start with.
On the flip side, if they don’t have success, it is not because “you can’t win in P2 with Iowa St/Big 12”

CMC would/could have won 8+ with his roster last year if at PSU.

We’ll see if the benefit of combining a lot of the best of two rosters is enough to push him into the 10+ win level. Such a situation did help IU reach its unprecedented heights, but I have a feeling IU’s staff is better

Glad we never saw it, but CMC without Heacock wouldn’t have been CMC