This is an excellent point. At least with electric it is fairly predictable and rises slower and more well known. Much less of a bull whip.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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This is me about every 5 years. My Kia just flipped 50k miles, is a good vehicle, but when something like this and the BMW come out, it makes me want to make the move. I know I should wait until the 2nd year.
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I really like it, and the reliability scores versus customer satisfaction are hard to reconcile!
yeah was kind of hoping for a hybrid Pilot for the wifes newest SUV, Her Palisade started burning oil at 120k (@dmclone watch out for that on the Telluride) unfortunately so traded it in on a new Pilot, as hybrid Grand Highlanders are still basically unavailable to test drive same for Siannas. the new Hybrid Palisade would have been in consideration as we loved it and the new ones supposedly fixed the oil burn issue going back to a port/direct combo injection system but they weren't out yet.
if you want a new car buy a new car you can't take money with you when you are dead.
Depending on what reliability scores you're looking at, most issues are usually related to infotainment features. That's not to say customers don't care about that stuff, but customers usually won't judge that as harshly as a powertrain issue. And early adopters are also more accepting of "nuisance" issues.
That’s what I was thinking might be the issue. I hate that some ratings include the infotainment. While a nuisance, not nearly as important to me as powertrain, etc.
it would be interesting to see real full data on that every where, but good luck finding it. and there is also the factor sometimes those with problems are louder then those without.
Going to try to hold out with my Accord until my oldest starts driving in 4ish years, but something like the R2 would be high on my list.
the accord should be able to be passed down to the oldest, we might do the same for our Pilot now in 10 years hopefully.
This is the best I can find. This guy compiles and tracks the warranty data that is required to be reported by the SEC every quarter/year. Every industry. It's just financial data so no details on what breaks, but the trends can be informative.
All auto OEMs:
EV OEMs:
Yea that thing is a great car. 2018 2.0T. The only thing it's missing is a heated steering wheel.
you could probably add the heated steering wheel even now has most of Honda is plug and play. as much as enthusiast hate the discontinuation of the V6/6-Speed manual Accord coupe the 2.0 is well regarded still.
Per vehicle would be good as well. But trends are useful if you have a general idea already on a brand prior.
One of his charts is total warranty as a percent of revenue, which kind of gets at a per vehicle metric. Accrual as a percent of revenue does too. Warranty accrual is how much money they put in the bank when a vehicle is sold, which they then draw down in the future to pay the actual warranty costs. If accruals increase, they are anticipating higher warranty costs per vehicle.
I'm a reliability engineer for a heavy duty truck OEM. Different than passenger cars obviously, but our businesses operate very similarly.
