Hoiberg had experience in the front office of NBA teams. It is not head coaching, but it is significant in terms of running a major program.
ISU officially discontinuing gymnastics
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Hoiberg had experience in the front office of NBA teams. It is not head coaching, but it is significant in terms of running a major program.
You just made all that up.
Sorry, I’ll take the testimony of a coach who was there to witness things as opposed to message board yahoos…
And they trail the women's gymnastics team with 0 external investigations compared to 2.
Amy Pyle does not seem to be appreciated enough in the discussion of ISU Women's Gymnastics. Directly and indirectly (through KJ), she was a huge part of our "heyday."
This thread is making me reminisce about the role of ISU Gymnastics in my development as an IS sports fan.
1. My first interaction with Pollard was related to my attempt to start a booster club for ISU Gymnastics to help generate outside support. It got shot down because it would fragment the funding efforts for athletics. I didn't like it at the time, but looking back, I agree.
2. My first attempt to rally fans was to get a group to travel to Columbia, Missouri to cheer on the Cyclones in the Big 12 Conference meet. Who would have known that it would lead to massive football tailgates, events on the road, and now even tailgates in Hilton for basketball!
1. My first interaction with Pollard was related to my attempt to start a booster club for ISU Gymnastics to help generate outside support. It got shot down because it would fragment the funding efforts for athletics. I didn't like it at the time, but looking back, I agree.
2. My first attempt to rally fans was to get a group to travel to Columbia, Missouri to cheer on the Cyclones in the Big 12 Conference meet. Who would have known that it would lead to massive football tailgates, events on the road, and now even tailgates in Hilton for basketball!
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Disappointed for current members of the team. This type of upheaval can't be easy for the young ladies.
But wonder if it was inevitable with the growing popularity of other women's sports like wrestling and hockey.
And some of those sports might be cheaper from a facility, operating costs and liability standpoint.
Also, wonder if timing was based on getting ISU's new Presidents approval.
But wonder if it was inevitable with the growing popularity of other women's sports like wrestling and hockey.
And some of those sports might be cheaper from a facility, operating costs and liability standpoint.
Also, wonder if timing was based on getting ISU's new Presidents approval.
So.... why do all these so called insiders, just post vague accusations?
If they know the real deal, why dont they just come out and say it?
So the rest of us "Yahoos" dont have to rely on the rumors and "make up" things.
You joined here basically at the point Gymnastics problems showed up in public, your first dozens of posts were all about this, and 99% of your posts have been about this. Maybe like I said you have a few irons in the fire about this yourself, maybe you are Ryan, or someone else involved, maybe you are the parent whos daughter left the program last year that has been saying stuff all over socials.
No idea, but you obviously may have a bit of a bias toward one side of this.
Basically there have been a lot of rumors out there, a lot of things that obviously have been going on for years, that involved investigations etc. There obviously have been issues with parents meddling, there obviously was a mutiny in the program, etc. where there were refusals to compete etc. that was all made clear in JPs statement. Seems a lot of the rumors are being found to be true. What the underlying issues were, like drinking, hazing, complaints, coaching, etc. we can only go by rumor until someone clarifies it.
Say what you want, tell me it was a bad hire, tell me there were issues with the coach etc. But what were the issues before the current coach hire? Why have there been investigations and issues before this coach? Why do you not see the same issues in other programs, that also may have had bad coaches/hires over the years?
2 things can be true, at the same time, that the gymnasts and parents have been toxic and have had serious issues for years, as well as the current coach was a bad hire and people complained about her.
I am not excusing either of them, but you know what that does equal, a toxic program that is failing, with a lot of problems that have been going on for many years. That the University is probably better off, moving on from than continuing to fight it.
Sometimes the Squeaky wheel gets the grease, and sometimes it gets replaced, that is life.
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I suspect that there are lawyers involved. If parties speak too much too publicly, they may compromise their legal standing or the standing of others for future settlements.
I had this though also. Might be appealing to be known as the president who brought Women’s wrestling to ISU. On the other side you could get stuck with the legacy that Women’s gymnastics died under you.
Though call.
Oh I am sure there may be, but I also am sure some of those on socials are not part of a legal dispute.
Is there a reason you’re responding to all posters other than the ones pointing out that one of JPs biggest hires ever in the 2nd most important sport in the AD was someone who never coached before? Or just hoping your false narrative holds up?
Taking a flyer on popular commentator and former athlete was definitely a gamble. On the flip side, got to consider the fact that it was probably a calculated risk to give a shot at saving a program that has probably been on the chopping block for years given the way this went down. If you caught lightning great, if not axe the program. The latter happened.
Are we going to have a never ending call to bring back baseball and women's gymnastics now??
We can't ask to bring back beers because we have never had beers in the first place. So we can only complain about starting beers.
Rest of Big XII has women's soccer, and is a big participation sport in Iowa.
