ISU officially discontinuing gymnastics

Unfortunate, but probably the right decision. I had not realized only two Big 12 programs had women's gymnastics (ISU and WVU) until the conference added Utah, BYU and the AZ schools.

Looks like the transfer portal for WGym opens late April. Someone needs to get Campbell's number to the ladies.

I look forward to women's wrestling.
Oklahoma Nebraska and Missouri all had it before they left for what it’s worth. We always had the bare minimum but it’s never been a huge B12 sport like it is in the SEC
 
I have no inside perspective, but from the outside it simply looks like the environment around our women's gymnastics team was so incredibly toxic and that it was beyond repair.

If I were a team member, parent, or coach who contributed to this dysfunctional environment, I would be so embarrassed that I contributed to the death of the entire program.

To those team members, parents, and coaches who did not contribute to the toxic environment, I have much sympathy.
 
I was also looking at the other teams with women’s wrestling. A lot were around Iowa so I figured vans or a bus for travel.

Equipment would be low with already having a room.
A lot of the travel expense is hotel and providing every meal to coaches, players, and support staff when they are on the road. Traveling exclusively by charter bus vs the teams that have to fly some would save money, but not slash the travel budget by well over half. Its a less expensive alternative to a portion of the travel budget.

Equipment/supplies/unforms would be on the lower end of the range for women's sports, but you still have all of the athletic training supplies etc. Saying it will be on the bottom end of the range is fair, saying they will spend close to nothing isn't realistic.
 
A lot of the travel expense is hotel and providing every meal to coaches, players, and support staff when they are on the road. Traveling exclusively by charter bus vs the teams that have to fly some would save money, but not slash the travel budget by well over half. Its a less expensive alternative to a portion of the travel budget.

Equipment/supplies/unforms would be on the lower end of the range for women's sports, but you still have all of the athletic training supplies etc. Saying it will be on the bottom end of the range is fair, saying they will spend close to nothing isn't realistic.
Isn't the insurance for a sport like gymnastics a lot higher than other sports? Odds of getting seriously hurt in a sport like gymnastics has to be a lot higher than wrestling.
 
I am sorry. A lot of memories of little kids bopping, dancing to the music, jumping up and down.

It was one of the easiest sports for our children to connect with athletes too. A lot of times the athletes were so beyond gracious and would go up to the Hilton outer ring by the glass after events and were so accommodating with pictures, posters, etc.

It also felt like a sport/event where time went quickly. Like, it wasn't a bore at all to sit thru.
Well no mandatory TV time outs would be a huge benefit.
 
Isn't the insurance for a sport like gymnastics a lot higher than other sports? Odds of getting seriously hurt in a sport like gymnastics has to be a lot higher than wrestling.
Here is the section that includes risk management. It's a little hard to know exactly what is going where, because there are a lot of things in Direct Overhead & Administrative Expenses section. As an example Tennis is high in 2024 because of their new facility. But gymnastics wasn't an outlier in terms of being high. I'm sure the department pays more per athlete for risk management in gymnastics, swimming and diving, and football than other sports but it doesn't appear to be some huge expense.

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Well no mandatory TV time outs would be a huge benefit.
It's just so unique, like alternating back and forth between two different events and then having like two hockey intermissions after a set of the routines is done.

Also, I love competition but there's also some really good comradery with the athletes and fans, even opposing ones.
 
They kept Jay way too long, resulting said investigation (nobody has said what that was and girls on the team then have no idea), then he hired someone with NO experience, instant recipe for failure. Hard to think he didn’t have this planned to happen and he finally did it
Pollard planned to kill the men's basketball program by hiring someone with NO experience and it failed miserably.
 
Yea I glossed over a lot. There was a lot of argument over if injuries were actually injuries or just a hangover. A set of parents threatening crap (which Jamie apparently has confirmed). It was just a crazy toxic environment from all sides

I heard this from a cheerleader I knew while I was in school, who had a roommate who was a gymnast.
A cheerleader and a gymnast I'm pretty sure I've heard about movies that have those characters in it's plot lines.
 
LOL does anyone actually read any of the thread before commenting.

This has been explained over and over and over on both threads on this subject.

We need 16 sports. With gymnastics we had 18, now 17.

We are slightly ahead on womens for title 9, and with the new scholarship limits we can easily adjust the numbers to fit the needed ratio.

Sometimes I think this thread needs pinned posts.
They just wouldn't get read.