We felt it in Fisher...daughter had a performance same time as the game...It started shaking when Naz made his shot. People started pulling out their phones to see what happened!
Student Section
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Same for the OU game, down by 21, come back to win. Don't ask what year.
Think Monte hit a big one from our sideline towards the end.
Think Brett Musburger was calling it. He came close to an orgasm
In this day and age, with electronic tickets, they could easily track ticket scans etc. Then prioritize those that use their tickets vs those that dont, when they sell tickets.
So you are prioritized when you purchase tickets, by how many games attended in the previous year. Then Freshman and first year ticket holders have lottery for a select number. So there is a huge incentive to show up to as many games as possible, or make sure you give/sell your ticket to someone else that wants to use it.
If you get tickets and only use them for 50% of the games your priority goes behind someone that uses them more.
Overselling has not worked to actually fill the student section many games, like it is designed to. So we need to make actual attendance more important.
They could also give section priority to those that actually use their tickets more often as a perk, too. So the more you use them, you move up from being able to get lower level, the less you use them your priority puts you in the upper level.
That being said, opening some seats up for some others like you said, clubs, kids teams, etc would be a decent idea too.
This is this fan base’s “SNL way better in my day” talking point. “The student section was awesome 10 years ago!”
*complained about it at the time*
*complained about it at the time*
Unless something very recently has changed, phones are pretty much useless during the games. Hilton is a deadzone, both because of the design, and because of network capacity. Although some networks may be better than others.
I went to school during Mcdermott, we had both ends of the balcony and couldn’t fill either side on the lower level.
I was there in the Orr era. You couldn't hear the person next to you if they were trying to talk to you. It was insanely loud!
I agree with this. If there were empty seats they were in the balcony and scattered so not noticeable.
It wasn’t great then most of the time. I went to Iowa State 2010-2014, and the student section couldn’t completely fill up for any game minus Iowa and KU. Baylor was the only other team that was good that the students seemed to fill.
I always see phones out at games. It’s fine, but people are completely addicted to looking at their phone every 2 minutes.
It might be time to start selling the upper level seats if the students aren't going to use them.
I’m sorry.
The students and crowds of the mid-80s to mid-90s blow away most crowds and student sections today.
I’ve seen maybe 20 atmospheres (almost all Kansas/Baylor in their heyday, and a few top-10 teams) that were like EVERY conference game from 1984 to 1994.
The crowds KNEW they had to be part of the win. They ABSOLUTELY knew it from the start and acted accordingly. Johnny recognized the crowd EVERY TIME HE WALKED ON THE COURT with that fist pump. He always acknowledged the crowd directly, personally, and physically.
Once he was gone, there was still some magic, but we honestly didn’t ABSOLUTELY NEED it to win. We had better teams, we cared about defense, and it wasn’t the same level of excitement. We actually began to expect to win games, sometimes even away from home.
Anyone thinking they invented, or even came close to, the Magic that Hilton had with Johnny is kidding themselves. The Magic was the crowd willing the “lesser team” to a win when they weren’t supposed to beat the top of the Big 8. The magic now is no longer transforming the lesser team into that night’s victor. It’s simply getting excited and cheering for our better or evenly matched team beating the other team.
Kansas does not claim there is magic in the Phog. The only magic in the Phog vs. out of the Phog is the mesmerized officials. It is an intimidating, loud, great atmosphere, but it isn’t magical. They are supposed to win every game, and they act like it.
We have come so far from the lovable loser that needed a magic venue, to being an intimidating team with a consistently dedicated, better-than-average atmosphere.
We will be on fire next weekend, all weekend. I’m sure of it. When it happens, look around and repeat after me: “THIS is what Hilton Magic was like all the time in those days.”
With all this said, the students need to show up and not ever not show up again. That is completely unacceptable. They need to appreciate what they have, or have it taken away. Give it to people who will show up. I believe, and other old folks can correct me if I’m wrong, that there were three years in a row with lotteries for student tickets, with one of those years being a lottery to get into the lottery. On our floor, we would make sure someone used our ticket if we weren’t going, because you would catch hell if the seat went unfilled. Not everyone was like that, but I bet a large majority were.
It’s just different now. The students who bought the tickets in the 80s and early 90s went for the love of it. We had no organization, but we were vicious. Cyclone Alley wasn’t a thing, and at least for conference season the entire place was packed. It’s just not the same anymore, but people have many more options. We had cable and ISU basketball to get us through the winters. No cell phones to selfie it all either.
Now, I tip my hat to the student section in football. They are killing it there (most of the time) compared to those days. We brought Boones and drank on every first down in Section O in the front rows most games. THAT has changed considerably.
The students and crowds of the mid-80s to mid-90s blow away most crowds and student sections today.
I’ve seen maybe 20 atmospheres (almost all Kansas/Baylor in their heyday, and a few top-10 teams) that were like EVERY conference game from 1984 to 1994.
The crowds KNEW they had to be part of the win. They ABSOLUTELY knew it from the start and acted accordingly. Johnny recognized the crowd EVERY TIME HE WALKED ON THE COURT with that fist pump. He always acknowledged the crowd directly, personally, and physically.
Once he was gone, there was still some magic, but we honestly didn’t ABSOLUTELY NEED it to win. We had better teams, we cared about defense, and it wasn’t the same level of excitement. We actually began to expect to win games, sometimes even away from home.
Anyone thinking they invented, or even came close to, the Magic that Hilton had with Johnny is kidding themselves. The Magic was the crowd willing the “lesser team” to a win when they weren’t supposed to beat the top of the Big 8. The magic now is no longer transforming the lesser team into that night’s victor. It’s simply getting excited and cheering for our better or evenly matched team beating the other team.
Kansas does not claim there is magic in the Phog. The only magic in the Phog vs. out of the Phog is the mesmerized officials. It is an intimidating, loud, great atmosphere, but it isn’t magical. They are supposed to win every game, and they act like it.
We have come so far from the lovable loser that needed a magic venue, to being an intimidating team with a consistently dedicated, better-than-average atmosphere.
We will be on fire next weekend, all weekend. I’m sure of it. When it happens, look around and repeat after me: “THIS is what Hilton Magic was like all the time in those days.”
With all this said, the students need to show up and not ever not show up again. That is completely unacceptable. They need to appreciate what they have, or have it taken away. Give it to people who will show up. I believe, and other old folks can correct me if I’m wrong, that there were three years in a row with lotteries for student tickets, with one of those years being a lottery to get into the lottery. On our floor, we would make sure someone used our ticket if we weren’t going, because you would catch hell if the seat went unfilled. Not everyone was like that, but I bet a large majority were.
It’s just different now. The students who bought the tickets in the 80s and early 90s went for the love of it. We had no organization, but we were vicious. Cyclone Alley wasn’t a thing, and at least for conference season the entire place was packed. It’s just not the same anymore, but people have many more options. We had cable and ISU basketball to get us through the winters. No cell phones to selfie it all either.
Now, I tip my hat to the student section in football. They are killing it there (most of the time) compared to those days. We brought Boones and drank on every first down in Section O in the front rows most games. THAT has changed considerably.
I don't like that any better than the students. But, the students don't have as many good excuses not to show up.
We should have ways to fill EVERY seat in the lower bowl / center of the court and move people "up" when they are dedicated or want better seats and backfill every empty seat with lower priced seat options leading up to the game.
There are creative ways to figure out how to make sure there are no empty seats in the lower bowl and even more creative ways to make sure there are no empty seats in the Coliseum.
With today's technology we should be able to pack the place, reward those that pay for the seats they want to create an opportunity for those willing to upgrade that experience from 201 15th row to 111 row 1.
Kick Ticketmaster the hell out and develop your own AI optimized system to do it. AND KEEP ALL THE MONEY.
Where there is a will there is a way. Make it happen ISU.
The Okie State game the Clones were down big and came back to win it.
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Every off season I go back and watch highlights from games from the Hoiberg era/early Prohm era and the students were just way louder. I feel like even when we have a full student section, not all of them are fully engaged and getting hyped.
I don't know what Iowa State athletics or anyone can do. It's just the group of students we have don't care as much which sucks.
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Not defending our fans at all because they were very quiet today but the UNC game cannot really be an apples to apples comparison....Duke is their arch rival and that game no matter if it's in Chapel Hill or Durham is always bonkers
I'm of the opinion that at least the student section should be there in full force and be loud....for crying out loud, we're #7 in the country.
With that being said, our conference home slate to this point has been abysmal. We haven't played anyone with a number by their name and that creates apathy amongst the students and many of the other fans.
I am always one of the first people to stand up and try and get the crowd pumped up in my section but I quite literally am the only one doing it. I notice a lot of people literally scrolling on their phones while the game is happening.....why even go to the game if all you're going to do is scroll on your phone?
