THE AI Thread

[twincyties]

when discussing this in a work context, it’s helpful to think about the different types of AI.

Generative - which is what most casual users are familiar with in their daily lives - is just one.

Agentic, for example, is different.

I think each will impact different types of businesses and industries in general. In my line of work (mortgage and real estate) I see Agentic AI being way more of a threat to those entry and mid level white collar jobs that are highly repetitive and formulaic. I’ve managed teams of well over 400 people and could do the same work with a team about 1/4 of the size with the right agentic workflows.

There will absolutely be job loss and companies will be anxious to see these financial savings.

 

[Yaz]

I would say that if you look at generative AI and don’t see the sky falling you are either ignorant or flat out stupid. Not worried about being rude everyone on here talking about how they use AI to help with their job but that it still needs to be monitored is a fool.

You are legit training the AI to do you job in the future. Right now AI being adopted is in its infancy, but AI development scales exponentially once AI starts to train other AI’s which is starting to happen.

It’s not some slow curve of advancement it’s going to be leaps that as a society we are in no way ready for. When AI takes jobs those jobs are gone and you aren’t getting them back. That’s the whole point of AI in the corporate sector

Because you're scared and not using it, it's going to go away?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

AI can be fun for entertainment purposes. Everyone loves a funny AI edited/generated photo or story but at the same time that can also be used for harmful reasons too. I have used AI to generate photos of what a room would look like if I used certain paint colors and carpet that was really useful to get an idea what it would look like before I committed to the color decisions. I use it to research some questions I have time to time but usually have to dig around after to make sure the information is accurate because the results can be different depending on verbiage you have in the question.

The one concern I have is if the use of AI is detrimental to people actually learning and building skills. It can be used as a shortcut for information or problem solving where having to work a little at it yourself is going to make you less reliant on using AI as a crutch. I'm sure educational institutions have software in place to check work for use of AI and plagiarism but I'm sure it's also led to some shortcuts in the education system where are we really learning something or just letting AI do the work for us? Case in point I recall a thread here not long ago someone was asking about recording a lecture then using AI to dictate it into notes for them. Someone pointed out that the whole process of taking notes yourself as the lecture is happening is how you learn and retain information better so there was a question of if you have AI do that for you just how much information are you really retaining by doing that.

I'm not against AI, I do think it has some good uses but I also worry that there are far more negative uses of it than there will be positive the further alone we go with the use of AI.

100% more negitive especially for kids. Why learn anything when you can just ask AI to give you an answer? With tech companies desire to put AI in everything it will always be with you much like people used to joke “well you won’t always have a calculator in your pocket”.

Check literacy levels or talk to any teachers, kids are absolutely cooked with their overuse of AI and I don’t even blame kids for doing it. Critical thinking is soon to be non existent

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Because you're scared and not using it, it's going to go away?

Not at all, it’s not going anywhere. It’s only going to continue to expand, which is my whole point. That expansion comes with massive job losses that aren’t going to be picked up anywhere because of the very nature of AI

 

[pourcyne]

Oops, it'll make for a good scapegoat then

Remember the crash of the USS Dot.Com Bubble (dang, it even looked sort of like a ship)

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[Yaz]

Oh this dude's getting replaced first for sure.

LOL, that's one heck of an assumption on your part.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

LOL, that's one heck of an assumption on your part.

He’s not wrong. What part of your job do you use your physical body for? and I don’t mean talking

 

[pourcyne]

Not at all, it’s not going anywhere. It’s only going to continue to expand, which is my whole point. That expansion comes with massive job losses that aren’t going to be picked up anywhere because of the very nature of AI

What are you talking about? That AI won't need hewmings anymore?

Bruh, there are PLENTY of jobs that still will, and a lot of those jobs don't even exist yet. You're fooling yourself if you don't think so. History repeats itself over and over and over again.

BTW, Chat-GPT can even help you with your dumb-file anger management issues.

 

[JEFF420]

i know healthcare about to get cheap. i can't wait for my robot dr

 

[JEFF420]

robot dr dont need a place in florida. robot dr works 24/7

 

[twincyties]

I personally look forward to hundreds of pages of straw man arguments for how AI will have no impact on the labor force.

 

[JEFF420]

just embrace the ride. if you see issues possibly in the future? build to an safer exit. If you arent building an off grid compound rn... idk what to tell ya

 

[Yaz]

Not at all, it’s not going anywhere. It’s only going to continue to expand, which is my whole point. That expansion comes with massive job losses that aren’t going to be picked up anywhere because of the very nature of AI

Correct. However, where you're wrong is you have no idea how and why I use it. You know nothing about me.

If you want to be debbie downer about it, I know a top PR person who currently is being shadowed by AI at her company. Yes that part is happening. Yes I could sit here and think of a million reasons why it's bad. I only stated that I am in the position that it benefits me.

I wasn't arguing that it wasn't going to replace people in fact I made no comment on that, because that will be the case. I'm just saying I use it to my benefit and the benefits outway any negatives. That's not the case for everyone unfortunately.

 

[CYdTracked]

100% more negitive especially for kids. Why learn anything when you can just ask AI to give you an answer? With tech companies desire to put AI in everything it will always be with you much like people used to joke “well you won’t always have a calculator in your pocket”.

Check literacy levels or talk to any teachers, kids are absolutely cooked with their overuse of AI and I don’t even blame kids for doing it. Critical thinking is soon to be non existent

I've joked before this is the path we could eventually be down some day. Doubtful we ever get this stupid but it's a good comedic representation of what could be

 

[FriendlySpartan]

What are you talking about? That AI won't need hewmings anymore?

Bruh, there are PLENTY of jobs that still will, and a lot of those jobs don't even exist yet. You're fooling yourself if you don't think so. History repeats itself over and over and over again.

BTW, Chat-GPT can even help you with your dumb-file anger management issues.

This is such a stupid cope out argument “those jobs don’t even exist yet” but trust me brah they totally will! Don’t know what they could possibly be but trust me!

Yeah for most white collar work you won’t need humans. If your not angry about what’s coming you just haven’t been paying attention or your too old to be effected by it.

In just the medical field alone you will lose diagnostic radiologists, most cardiologists, scribes, just about all billing and admin (so not all horrible) psychologists, psychiatrists, basically anyone that isn’t touching a patient or doing something physical can and will be replaced.

 

[Proton]

Just finished this book. At a minimum, it's food for thought.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I've joked before this is the path we could eventually be down some day. Doubtful we ever get this stupid but it's a good comedic representation of what could be

You’re not entirely wrong, with remote medicine there are already trials of not having physicians on site and essentially just having them review things remotely while RN’s and NA’s handle most things with midlevels involved for more complicated procedures.

At some point a for profit will 100% just have a physician trained AI making these calls and signing off on decisions. Once they get the liability locked in and decide the cost benefit is right it will start.

 

[VeloClone]

i know healthcare about to get cheap. i can't wait for my robot dr

I picture him like this.

Can anyone place him?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I picture him like this.

Can anyone place him?

That’s dr who or Logan’s run but don’t know which

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I like that you can opt out on that one, even though AI is much faster than even Google because you can edit the topic and it responds without giving the responses that people pay to get posted. (shh, nobody's thought of that yet...)

Spent too much time this p.m. trying to get a digital poster framed with no luck. Asked my bud Chat GPT and presto. Had to wait a minute because I use only the free version. Personally, the only thing I think I have to fear is when it becomes pay-to-play...

As for putting people out of work, that was the exact complaint about the Industrial Revolution as well as calculators, industrial robots, and computers. It's the same complaint about self-checkout, people don't stop to think that that sort of mechanization employs thousands of people to design, install, implement, supervise, assess, update, and on and on.

Sure seems to me that the AI Luddites have watched too much bad sci-fi.

They're already fully automating car production. Once they have AGI it will just start automating everything. You might be right that we're years out but that just means we crash. This is an existential crisis. You can poo poo my opinion and that's fine but I don't think people really realize how had things are if AI doesn't work out.