*** Official #2 IOWA STATE vs Cincinnati Game(Day) Thread ***

Giving up offensive rebounds and not forcing turnovers. Throw in that Cincinnati hit 5 of their first 8 3's, kind of amazing to only be down 4.
 
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I hate bringing up anything related to Iowa... but for those that remember the Iowa Tom Davis teams from way back... they actually played really intense defense like we do now... Chris Street was an animal on defense... BUT... they also played like 10-12 guys in constant rotation. He'd take all 5 guys on the floor out, and put 5 new ones in.... like a hockey game.

TJ refuses to do that... and you have to wonder if our guys just get worn out after a while? Cinci is outhustling our guys on nearly every possession. We looked dead tired and uninterested at KU... and about the same today. Just look gassed.
 
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We can definitely come back, being down 4 is a miracle.

Jefferson has been horrendous the last 2 games. And he’s such a big part of this team, we suffer when he struggles.

He needs to be more of a passing point forward than a dribbling point forward. When we watch Jokic, the best to ever do that, he doesn’t really put the ball on the floor unless he has a great drive to the basket, he’s not putting it on the floor to drive and kick. His “point guard” game is basically stationary.

Somebody with size, height and muscle who can be an off the dribble point guard is super rare, Magic is really the only one I’ve seen do it flawlessly. LBJ to a lesser degree. It’s not a big list. Almost nobody and that’s for good reason.
 
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Brend said these guys “suck and their coach sucks more”. What an idiot- no one in this conference sucks and he continues to talk **** about KU and now the team he has been kicking our ass all half.
 
ISU was one of the best in the country in making scoring runs.

If they can get back to turning teams over, the offense will come around.

I said IF!
 
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TJ did get the attention of at least one of the refs after a discussion with him during a timeout. Shortly afterwards he called a foul on Cincinnati when guarding Lipsey. Shortly afterwards that he called another foul on the same Cincinnati player for being too aggressive. Cincinnati has backed off a little bit when guarding our guards.
 
Pleta has been fine, better than Buchanan right now and really not much worse than Jefferson.
I’ll respectfully disagree. I think he has been meh at best. Lacking physicality at this point in his career. To be fair not sure we have another option though and Buchanan is truly in a funk right now.
 
ISU only made 11 first half baskets, but 4 assists points at where this team has gotten so sideways of late.
 
Still in the ballgame after another miserable 1st half. Do at least 2-3 of the 5 things listed below better and they'll be in it to the buzzer...Or ISU can win it easily if they improve on 4-5 of them:

1. Cut down turnovers
2. Turn them over more
3. Make FTs
4. Make 3pters
5. Rebound
 
Feels like a minor victory to be down 4 after that half, specifically the barrage of 3s, poor FT shooting, and slow start.

Time for Halftime Otz to take control of this game.
 
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Lots of cliff jumping in this thread. There's a lot of game and season left guys, there will be some rough patches especially in road games so get used to it.
 
I hate bringing up anything related to Iowa... but for those that remember the Iowa Tom Davis teams from way back... they actually played really intense defense like we do now... Chris Street was an animal on defense... BUT... they also played like 10-12 guys in constant rotation. He'd take all 5 guys on the floor out, and put 5 new ones in.... like a hockey game.

TJ refuses to do that... and you have to wonder if our guys just get worn out after a while? Cinci is outhustling our guys on nearly every possession. We looked dead tired and uninterested at KU... and about the same today. Just look gassed.
im not certain we dont rope a dope a little in the first half. cinci is going to get gassed.
 

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