So we can't question Pollard on here anymore?

Shouldn't even allowed Campbell to address the team, Took a new job, be gone and we will mail you your stuff from you office
Couldn't agree more. That's exactly how he treated his players when they announced they were entering the portal. No unkind words, just goodbye.
 
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Don’t care about Matt, but the players, for sure. Why wouldn’t you? Loyal Sons Forever True is BS for the fans. They are loyal to their coach, and I probably would be too. It’s over, take the high road(I know it sucks sometimes) and move on.

Guarantee in 20 years we’ll be hearing from Matt about “how he should have stayed at Iowa State”. He made his choice. Time for us to move on.
What are you talking about? I'm the one moving on. Matt who?? Rocco who?? I've moved on. It's some on here that think we need to keep cheering for them at PSU, or want to build statues, or forever worship Matt Campbell, etc... :puke:.

I don't wish any ill will for anyone personally... if you don't want to be a Cyclone anymore.. then so be it. But you're dead to me as a sports fan then. I don't care about PSU.... sorry.

Outside of sports... fine... I hope nothing bad for anyone. But I've moved on. We owe Matt nothing... he came here and for the most part did what he was paid to do in his job... great hire by JP. Rogers is our guy now... deal with it. I've moved on.
 
Epic butthurt - impressive.
Nothing butt-hurt about it.

If I'm in a very competitive business and I have an excellent employee who announces with no warning that he's decided to go work for a competitor, I would do the following immediately:
  • thank him for his service
  • ask for his key
  • give him a box to collect his personal items
  • help him carry his stuff to the car
  • immediately remove his electronic access and work email so he cannot take any of our clients to his new employer
No harsh words, just a thanks for your great work and a goodbye.
 
My problem with what MC did is that sure, take some players and recruits, but no... he had to go as far as taking the bandhauer kid with him (idk if that is spelled right) and took all of the top recruits we had besides jeffrey roberts
which is what happens to most teams when this happens. Only difference is... it seems CMC and his staff were legit the glue holding it all together which is why 99% of the team is leaving. Clearly the guy had a system that was working for these kids and they're done now that it's no more.
 
Sure, the blame lies in the people that committed and covered up the crimes, but you can’t talk about the scandal without discussing the massive institutional failure at PSU.
100%, but none of the people involved in it are a part of the University anymore, right? I just am more of a fan of holding people accountable for their actions.
 
100%, but none of the people involved in it are a part of the University anymore, right? I just am more of a fan of holding people accountable for their actions.
There were several, including the assistant who witnessed child rape in the shower, who were just placed on administrative leave for a while. Other lower level employees who were witnesses were not terminated.
 
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“They were sought after and were celebrated as good hires at the time” is a pretty low bar.
As opposed to "Nobody wanted them and they were horrible before they got here?"

How is hiring sought after and highly regarded individuals a Low Bar? That's freaking insane.
 
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Are they still there?
Sandusky was arrested in 2011. They easily could be. It was an institutional failure from top to bottom. All those lower level employees who witnessed what was happening allowed the sexual assault of more children. Call 911, don’t enable rape, even if it costs you your job.
 
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Sandusky was arrested in 2011. They easily could be. It was an institutional failure from top to bottom. All those lower level employees who witnessed what was happening allowed the sexual assault of more children. Call 911, don’t enable rape, even if it costs you your job.
We agree. Those people deserve every ounce of hate a criticism they receive. I just don't think you need to cheer against PSU for the rest of your life because people who used to be employed there are horrible humans.
 
We do not agree in the slightest. But you go ahead and cheer for an institution that enabled child rape.
Man, we need a reset. Acting as if cheering for Campbell or the players that left in anyway supports what happened there 16-20 years ago is something. No one supports that. You’re better than that!

This whole thing makes us (some of us anyway) look bitter and jaded. Some growing up needs to happen.
 
Man, we need a reset. Acting as if cheering for Campbell or the players that left in anyway supports what happened there 16-20 years ago is something. No one supports that. You’re better than that!

This whole thing makes us (some of us anyway) look bitter and jaded. Some growing up needs to happen.
They probably shouldn't have a football program tbh
 
Screw that... Matt chose to walk out on these players, not the other way around. Let's not forget that. Sure, the players cared about him, but he screwed them over and left them... he quit on them.

That night he came back to talk to them one last time... I think it would have been funny if the doors were locked and his key card didn't work anymore.

Everyone always talks about what Matt has done for ISU.... what about what ISU did for Matt? Made him wealthy beyond his imagination... and basically JP made all the facility improvements he wanted while he was here. Without JP doing all those improvements.... Matt likely doesn't win as much as he did at ISU, and never becomes a coach that is wanted by anyone.

But... in the end... none of it was enough for what Matt ultimately wanted... so he quit.... and walked out on all those players and left their lives in limbo. Not only that... but he did that to some of the kids that he literally committed to the day or two before he quit on them. But that's JP's fault? F that!

I don't personally wish anything bad to Matt or all these players that are leaving... that's evil... but I don't have to cheer for them either... they aren't Cyclones anymore... so I just don't give a s**t about them. If they go on to have success elsewhere... good for them.... but if they fail.... I won't shed a tear at all.
Great post! Totally echo your sentiments here. And I say that as someone who would have built both Pollard and Campbell a statue as recently as Thanksgiving.
 
I would love to have heard what that message was like. I think when you get the exodus like we had it certainly had to have the theme that you were talking about. Lots of guys in the portal that are it going to land in better positions.
And I'm guessing a lot of them won't. If we've got a spot for them fine, if not enjoy NWMSU.
 
We do not agree in the slightest. But you go ahead and cheer for an institution that enabled child rape.
Its incredibly sad and childish that you are insinuating that I condone what happened there by cheering for MC and the players who used to play here. I have no question that you are better then that.
 
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