So we can't question Pollard on here anymore?

[Cyched]

Been hashed out too many times, but my stance:

1. In an era where the ISU AD needs every penny it can get, even a modest profit from beer sales should be enough to move forward with. The state already allows for this at EIU and UNI with little trouble.

2. I’d feel more comfortable about adding beer sales if we have a new concessions vendor on board.

3. If we move forward with beer sales we should repurpose a few sections as “family friendly” sections where booze isn’t allowed and enforced accordingly, for people that don’t want to be around it. Maybe give JCC families a discount.

 

[WIBadger]

And not everyone cares about sports.

And even if they do, they may not want to donate to NIL (although you may be slightly able to get around that by moving money around)

 

[HeiseRiser]

What was We Will?

You said ISU has rich alumni right? Send some emails!!

If they want to pay me $120,000 I'll get all over those emails

 

[JUKEBOX]

Been hashed out too many times, but my stance:

1. In an era where the ISU AD needs every penny it can get, even a modest profit from beer sales should be enough to move forward with. The state already allows for this at EIU and UNI with little trouble.

2. I’d feel more comfortable about adding beer sales if we have a new concessions vendor on board.

3. If we move forward with beer sales we should repurpose a few sections as “family friendly” sections where booze isn’t allowed and enforced accordingly, for people that don’t want to be around it. Maybe give JCC families a discount.

How much would that potentially add? A million dollars a year? Maybe it's not worth the headache from the AD's perspective idk. I'm not sure how much money we missed out on due to the declined bowl game bid this year. I do think fans that feel strongly about it should purchase the premium seating.

I don't think selling alcohol in the stadium is going to make our AD leaps and bounds more competitive than it is now though.

 

[AuH2O]

Good questions. Put someone in charge of NIL who knows and can convince them to donate if that's even possible?

I bet the limiting factor is that nobody at ISU knows who the notable alumni at ISU are, rich people in Iowa are, or haven't contacted them.

 

[JUKEBOX]

I had said this in a different thread though, and even if I was a billionaire, I wouldn't donate to NIL. I think even if ISU does have some billionaires, they would have trouble getting them to donate for that in the current environment.

I read a story recently about how Troy Aikman is "done" with NIL:

“I gave money to a kid, I won’t mention who. I’ve done it one time at UCLA, never met the young man. He was there a year, he left after the year. I wrote a sizable check, and he went to another school. I didn’t even get so much as a thank you note. So, it’s one of those deals, to where I’m done with NIL. I want to see UCLA be successful, but I’m done with it.”

- Troy Aikman

 

[pourcyne]

This is an awesome post. Wish I could express myself as well as you just did.

Thank you.

 

[HeiseRiser]

I bet the limiting factor is that nobody at ISU knows who the notable alumni at ISU are, rich people in Iowa are, or haven't contacted them.

Like I said, it takes someone really good to get donations from tough sources. Is it worth paying someone a lot of money who's a pro at this to try?

 

[madguy30]

If they want to pay me $120,000 I'll get all over those emails

I think I'd need like $200,000.

That's a lot of BS to go through.

 

[HeiseRiser]

I had said this in a different thread though, and even if I was a billionaire, I wouldn't donate to NIL. I think even if ISU does have some billionaires, they would have trouble getting them to donate for that in the current environment.

I read a story recently about how Troy Aikman is "done" with NIL:

I feel pretty much the same way. I'll always watch the cyclones but college sports in general have lost it's luster.

 

[ema28]

Getting an email like this is important to several on this board. “At least it’s something!!!”

Do you want to share the email you got from Pollard sharing his plan?

I think the jest is that our rival down the road is trying different things and is being aggressive. We all know that she is doing more than sending emails.......

 

[chuckd4735]

Do you want to share the email you got from Pollard sharing his plan?

I think the jest is that our rival down the road is trying different things and is being aggressive. We all know that she is doing more than sending emails.......

Or some sort of execution on a plan they may be in place. It just feels like we are behind just about every other school when it comes to NIL (not Rev Share). We have done so well at not falling behind on things the last 20 years until now.

 

[Klubber]

Not a troll. Pollard has done good things, no doubt. He has also been passed by with his feet in cement by the modern world of college athletics. It is OK to discuss what this has done to our major programs. It is also OK to wonder why we're using NIL funds for non-revenue generating sports at the expense of football and basketball; why no one can question his supreme control; why the fans better believe everything he says; why outgoing coaches throw him a bone and most assume that means they loved working with him (just like some politicians); and why his most recent coaching search was done to "preserve continuity" and obviously did nothing of the sort; and why our student-athletes don't trust a word he says. It is OK to question all of these things while recognizing he has done good for ISU.

My guess is you have absolutely no clue how Pollard is handling/structuring our NIL, but instead are relying on innuendo and rumors. And much of that is from the ISU "Campbell is God" crowd who were losing their minds over him leaving and needed a scapegoat to blame.

You don't get to where JP is by being "passed by" as you said in the current climate of college athletics. He is also highly regarded by his peers at other schools without a doubt. The guy's been honored as a national AD of the year more than once. He's also served on the NCAA men's basketball committee which selects/seeds the NCAA Tournament teams.

JR was a home run hire in an absolutely worst case scenario timing wise for losing a coach.

And you saying our athletes don't trust him is ludicrous. Obviously some football player are pissed about Campbell leaving and will look to blame someone. These are the same players who are transferring because we wouldn't hand the keys over to a 2nd year OC (Mouser) who hasn't even established himself as a good OC yet. He also has no other interest at this point from other schools looking for a HC. You don't let the inmates run the asylum.

 

[Peter]

JP is obviously a smart guy but he can be an autocrat. Didn’t love the Rodgers hire TBH. He might be a good coach but JP making a unilateral decision about the most important job in the athletics department literally hours after Campbell leaves is not good leadership. Even if Rodgers is the guy I don’t see why you move that quickly. No serious business or corporation would hire without doing a formal job search. It was rash and if it doesn’t work out it’s 100% on JP.

 

[BCClone]

I really don't think that is where Blum was coming from. He later admitted he had absolutely no knowledge of that situation so assuming it was not basis for his statements.

That’s the only thing that could have made it preventable. Campbell staying was a long shot. Only chance was a large donation to buy players.

 

[Cyclone06]

JP is obviously a smart guy but he can be an autocrat. Didn’t love the Rodgers hire TBH. He might be a good coach but JP making a unilateral decision about the most important job in the athletics department literally hours after Campbell leaves is not good leadership. Even if Rodgers is the guy I don’t see why you move that quickly. No serious business or corporation would hire without doing a formal job search. It was rash and if it doesn’t work out it’s 100% on JP.

LOL. Yeah your right. It would be fun to still be interviewing for coaches right now. And if we formed a hiring committee and/or used a headhunter, Pollard would not be at fault if it fails.

 

[Cyched]

JP is obviously a smart guy but he can be an autocrat. Didn’t love the Rodgers hire TBH. He might be a good coach but JP making a unilateral decision about the most important job in the athletics department literally hours after Campbell leaves is not good leadership. Even if Rodgers is the guy I don’t see why you move that quickly. No serious business or corporation would hire without doing a formal job search. It was rash and if it doesn’t work out it’s 100% on JP.

Pollards tenure has had two full searches with all the bells and whistles. Those gave us Gene Chizik and Steve Prohm.

The other searches where he identified and zeroed in on “his guy?” Fred Hoiberg, Matt Campbell and TJ Otzelberger.

Can’t remember the full process when Rhoads was hired.

 

[BCClone]

JP is obviously a smart guy but he can be an autocrat. Didn’t love the Rodgers hire TBH. He might be a good coach but JP making a unilateral decision about the most important job in the athletics department literally hours after Campbell leaves is not good leadership. Even if Rodgers is the guy I don’t see why you move that quickly. No serious business or corporation would hire without doing a formal job search. It was rash and if it doesn’t work out it’s 100% on JP.

You serious Clark? Most G5 coaches had already been poached by the time Campbell left. This isn’t typical business where you have anytime on the calendar; you have a VERY short window. It was even shorter than normal with our timeframe. He could probably have had been able to have a couple more days but anything lnn on get than that and it would have been even worse than it was/is. He had to move fast and he did.

 

[Cyrealist]

JP is obviously a smart guy but he can be an autocrat. Didn’t love the Rodgers hire TBH. He might be a good coach but JP making a unilateral decision about the most important job in the athletics department literally hours after Campbell leaves is not good leadership. Even if Rodgers is the guy I don’t see why you move that quickly.

Every athletic director who is worth his salary has a list of candidates ready to go in this type situation. I don't think a dither-by-committee approach adds anything to the process. Getting a replacement onboard as soon as possible was a good attempt to stabilize the situation. There are no guarantees in hiring a new coach, but I've not heard of any red flags. We'll just have to see how Mr. Rogers does once he's in the neighborhood.

 

[Cyrealist]

LOL. Yeah your right. It would be fun to still be interviewing for coaches right now. And if we formed a hiring committee and/or used a headhunter, Pollard would not be at fault if it fails.

The CYA corporate approach.