In a way you’re right. They get to keep the team and not pay a dime for it. Thanks to KS residents and smart play by the voters.
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In a way you’re right. They get to keep the team and not pay a dime for it. Thanks to KS residents and smart play by the voters.
Maybe, but I certainly wouldn’t put any money down now on him being there in 5 or 6 years, way too many variables.
There's no way they are getting rid of him until he's in his mid 30s. They are going to convert most of his salary over to signing bonus next year which will save them 43 million cap space Unless he wants to leave there is no way they are getting rid of him
His current deal goes through 2030 and is set to be restructured after next season. Depending on what happens with his knee this off-season, I don't think a restructured deal is going to lead to more years. I think Mahomes will still be playing in 2031, just not sure it will be in Kansas City.
I agree. I'm just saying they are going to do a salary conversion this year which changes nothing in terms of what he actually receives but will save them 43million in cap room. I expect Chris Jones will do the same. I think the figure on him would allow the team to save 20million by converting. Salary conversion is the new thing. I think it's entirely possible they tag Chris Jones also. I wouldn't rule it out.it would make sense if they can't deal him.
I would be more than willing to bet that line, then bet Mahomes will not be the Chiefs starting QB when they move into the new stadium. He is the face of the franchise and the league, there is zero reasons to move on from him, if he wants, he will retire as a Chief, much like Dawson did.
@1SEIACLONE I don't know why that's funny. If he's say 38 years old and the team isn't doing as well as they could be you'd keep him? For what? Its the same situation the Colts were in with Manning and Packers with Rodgers. I'm not bringing a 38 year old QB back and paying him if I'm several players away from being a contender. Thats just stupid.
Both contracts will be switched over to save cap room, they are not trading Jones, McDuffy maybe, but Jones is still worth his salary to the Chiefs for another year or two.
It's funny because he is only 30 currently, he did not play his first season, except one game, so when the new stadium opens he will only be 36 years old, not 38. Younger than the Rams QB who is in the running for the MVP of the league. This is not the 70s, where a knee injuries destroyed your career or when QBs were retiring in their mid 30s. Hell look at Rivers and the Colts, he has played two games at a fairly high level, after sitting out for almost 5 seasons. There is zero reason to believe that Mahones cannot continue to play for another 10 to 12 years, if he wants to.
There are way more examples of teams moving on from stars then there are not. The Chiefs will be restructuring a team around Mahomes for the next few seasons. I'm not sure they will be able to extend him more years and pay what he is worth to do so, while he is on his upper 30s, right around the time that they will likely need to restruture the entire roster again.
I wouldn't be shocked if he is on the Chiefs after the 2030 season, but I think chances are better he's not. He will definitely still be in the NFL in 2031, just not sure it will be with the Chiefs.
You can only convert so much over to signing bonus dude. And when guy is like 38 you have to ask yourself the question "are we better off 5 years from now finding his replacement.". I realize he can convert a lot of salary over. I'm just saying that in 2034ish and you're 6-10 for example(and clearly his best football is behind him) is it advantageous paying him a ton of money? Even if it can be converted.
They'll find a way to pay him but it might be to a detriment of the franchise. It all depends on how the rest of the roster looks. If when he becomes a free agent just bringing him back makes them a contender you gotta bring him back. If you have a lot of young players you need cap room to resign and bringing him back only means you MIGHT make the playoffs you gotta deal him. The Packers finally figured out that even if they brought Rodgers back they still weren't going to contend for a title and that his salary prevented them from signing a lot of guys that would become the core of the future.
And the key here is his current contract expires in 2030. I'm not saying they are going to cut or trade him. If the Chiefs are smart, you don't pay more (assuming Mahomes wouldn't take less) for an old QB to build a new team around.
Matt Stafford could of gone to another team before this season and made A LOT more money. He chose to stay in LA for what the Rams were offering. Would Mahomes do the same on KC?
Agreed. Gotta see what the roster looks like then. Obviously you bring him back if you are "right there" in terms of being a championship contender. If you're not, I'm not sure the investment really makes sense.
The salary cap increases every year, Mahomes will be 36 when the new stadium opens, and the team went from Dawson to Mahomes struggling at the position except for a few years with Montana and Smith. They do not have a young QB that they are developing and shouldn't when you have a 30 year old QB.
You rework the deal, expend him a couple more years, and when he is 38 you start worrying about the future.
More than anything KC needs to seriously look at the offense, and reshape it in a way that gives Mahomes more protection from taking hits next season, they have a young offensive line that should be fine for the next 3 or 4 years, they need to find a replacement for Kelsey, maybe one more WR but more than anything they need a quality RB that can take the load away from Mahomes. Reid then needs to stay committed to having that back run the ball or catch it out of the backfield, 20 times a game. This relying on Mahomes to make a play and save the drive has to become less and less.
The new stadium opens in 2031, not 2034, and you were the one doubting he would be there when it opens. Yes, at some point you are going to have to replace Mahomes, he is human just like any QB in the league, but that time is so far out, its really silly to even talk about now. You extend the current deal and get him up to age 38 and then decide how the rest of it plays out. Mahomes unlike Brady has been paid very well, and his endorsement deals bring in a lot of money, Brady signed below market contacts for years, and then wanted to get paid his last couple of years, Mahomes has not been under paid, and I get the feeling he loves playing in KC.
I agree with all of this. But when 5 more seasons have passed, things will be different. Reid most definitely won't be coaching.
As I said you can only convert so much pay over to signing bonuses. Also, by the time he becomes a free agent his asking price to stay will be adjusted to what the salary cap and market values him as. That's how it works dude. Even if hes not playing at the level he has been the last several seasons the market will essentially command him to make 40% more. Stop acting like the guy is ever going to be cheap for the Chiefs. He's obviously worth it now and maybe he always will be based on the market but don't always assume it's a good investment for the team.
without a doubt, Mahomes will have a major say in who is Reids replacement, Maybe they have a plan in place, maybe not, but I would be shocked if Reid is on the sidelines for more than 2 or 3 seasons after this.
