When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 72 8.1%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 163 18.4%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.3%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 455 51.4%

  • Total voters
    886
The lightning fast charges up to 80% and then slowed down drastically. At a 350 kw electrify America charger, that means a charge rate of around 165-195 kwh for the first ten minutes, 150 kwh for a few minutes, 125 kwh to 80%, then 50+ kwh after that.

Another thing I'm not really seeing discussed is what people get for mileage in their vehicles. Over the last year, I averaged 1.7 mi/kwh. Most of my t miles are highway driving. If I lived in a suburb or city, that would jump to probably 2.5 or higher. I read a lot of people talk about Tesla's getting 3-4+ regularly. These values will greatly impact your cost and the amount of time spent driving on a longer trip.

My small suv is something like 4.3 city, 3.3 highway, 4.1 lifetime.
 
1.7? Woof.

I thought my Rivian was bad with its lifetime mi/kwh at 2.2 lol.
When I finally dump my Tundra a Rivian R1T is pretty high up on the list. I was wondering how much better the mi/kWh was vs the Lightning that I spent time with. My rough math says that if I charged them at home the Rivian would be a touch under $70 a month cheaper to drive if you have an hour commute one way to work. That adds up.
 
If they leased them, pickup leases can be cheaper since the resale value holds so well. Car values drop pretty fast, especially if a new body style comes out in that time.
They bought them. While trade-in value definitely holds up, when we were driving those things incredible amounts of miles to job sites mostly in Iowa but also in neighboring states, it's hard to imagine total cost of ownership not sucking vs. something perfectly suitable to haul people on the interstates and highways.
 
Are people buying or leasing their EVs? Im in the market for a new truck (thanks deer) and could be convinced to go electric as I dont tow anything.
I leased my Model 3. Would have considered buying but we got phased out of the federal tax credit for purchase. However, Tesla was able to apply that to a lease so ended up with a monthly payment of less than 400 per month (we did 10,000 miles x 3 years because we don’t drive that much).

Having 2+ years of ownership experience now and really enjoying it we’d probably purchase our next one.

In short, I suppose it depends on how much you plan to drive and how long you plan to own. If you don’t drive a lot I personally appreciate the peace of mind with a lease. No surprise costs although the same is probably true with a new car warranty.
 
1.7? Woof.

I thought my Rivian was bad with its lifetime mi/kwh at 2.2 lol.
1.7 - 1.8 feels pretty good actually. I drive about 78 mph on the highway which doesn't help. In the cold winter like today, I'm looking at 1.2 - 1.4 without pre-conditioning. The Rivian as a whole is a smaller and more aerodynamic truck, so I'm not surprised.
 
All this discussion reminds me of my old company. All the company vehicles at the main office were Silverados. And they were only used for people to drive from the office to job sites. They never hauled anything but people.
Mine gets used as a pickup (for work) occasionally, but I am in the same boat, I really don't need one. Admittedly it gets used as a truck 'personally' much more often than for work; say 10:1 ratio.

But as @BCClone says, they hold their resale values better so that is why they keep buying them. (what I was told anyway)
 
Mine gets used as a pickup (for work) occasionally, but I am in the same boat, I really don't need one. Admittedly it gets used as a truck 'personally' much more often than for work; say 10:1 ratio.

But as @BCClone says, they hold their resale values better so that is why they keep buying them. (what I was told anyway)
If ours were getting used at home by people as trucks I'd probably think it made more sense. But they sat in the office parking lot at night, got drove around all over M-F with pristine, empty beds, and got traded in with pristine empty beds.

With the use, price differential, and fuel use from what they could've bought, it didn't matter if resale for the alternative was $0, it would've made more sense to buy something suitable to drive people around.

I think it's just a bunch of guys that work white collar jobs in ag and construction think you have to drive a pickup.
 
I have never charged more than 7 min at a super charger in the 4 years I have had this car. And the range is bigger than my bladder, so it does not impact me.
What kind of EV do you have? My Tesla 3 takes significantly longer than that to charge at a Supercharger. Probably 15 minutes for half the battery.
 
Pretty interesting if you click on specific models

No one would have guessed 5 years ago that the Model Y would score an 81.
Higher than any vehicle from

  • Subaru
  • BMW
  • Nissan
  • Acura
  • Buick
  • Kia
  • Ford
  • Hyundai
  • Audi
  • Mazda
  • Volvo
  • Volkswagen
  • Chevrolet
  • Cadillac
  • Mercedes-Benz
  • Lincoln
  • Genesis
  • Chrysler
  • GMC
  • Jeep
  • Ram
  • Rivian
Also, if I read their methodology, sales don't have an impact. So even though Tesla probably sells 50x as many Model Y's, the CT counts the same.
 
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Pretty interesting if you click on specific models

No one would have guessed 5 years ago that the Model Y would score an 81.
Higher than any vehicle from

  • Subaru
  • BMW
  • Nissan
  • Acura
  • Buick
  • Kia
  • Ford
  • Hyundai
  • Audi
  • Mazda
  • Volvo
  • Volkswagen
  • Chevrolet
  • Cadillac
  • Mercedes-Benz
  • Lincoln
  • Genesis
  • Chrysler
  • GMC
  • Jeep
  • Ram
  • Rivian
Also, if I read their methodology, sales don't have an impact. So even though Tesla probably sells 50x as many Model Y's, the CT counts the same.
These are getting difficult to follow since Covid. Toyota’s having major issues with the tundra these days with the new engines.
 
Any recommendations for a PHEV or EV (Under $60,000). PHEV seems perfect as my trips are either very long or under 20 miles.

I regularly have 2 kids in car seats, so nothing small.
 
Any recommendations for a PHEV or EV (Under $60,000). PHEV seems perfect as my trips are either very long or under 20 miles.

I regularly have 2 kids in car seats, so nothing small.
If you can wait a little bit, the Rivian R2.
 
I would agree... They gotta look like they fit in when they show up at the jobsite...
You joke about that but my previous employer bought a F150 for our sales guy who worked up where they were doing the Fracking because the guys in charge of buying pumps wouldn't give him the time of day in a car like the rest of the sales guys got.
 
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These are getting difficult to follow since Covid. Toyota’s having major issues with the tundra these days with the new engines.
I'm just waiting for my Tundra to spin the front main. The non hybrids are all getting new engines up through mid 2024 build dates. Hybrids are getting long blocks, if you're still in warranty and if not sorry about your luck.
 
Any recommendations for a PHEV or EV (Under $60,000). PHEV seems perfect as my trips are either very long or under 20 miles.

I regularly have 2 kids in car seats, so nothing small.
Have you looked at the Pacifica PHEV, if you're wanting minivan.
We have a 2021 ICE Pacifica and have really liked it.
 
You joke about that but my previous employer bought a F150 for our sales guy who worked up where they were doing the Fracking because the guys in charge of buying pumps wouldn't give him the time of day in a car like the rest of the sales guys got.
Oh I am not joking. If you've worked in the trades (I have) while its silly it does have some twisted merit.
 
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