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Just give it time...eventually Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, maybe a couple others are going to say, "Ok, that's enough, we pay all the bills and we want our share. If you don't like it, that's fine, you can leave." And they will have no choice but to stay because this is the corner that the SEC and BIG have painted them into. They'll be getting about the same as ISU, minus the money you get for accomplishment of course, because that will be what the market dictates. The Big Ten paying Iowa, Northwestern, Rutgers, etc much, if any more than they'd get in the Big 12 in this day and age just isn't going to last long.
 
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Sigmapolis said:
Not hyperbole here but amid "power" athletic programs...

I'm not sure anybody does more with less than Iowa State.

And nobody does less with more than Iowa.
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Until very recently Illinois football had to be way up toward most underachieving for no good reason, and even now it's not like they are actually in the hunt for a conference title.
 
Tre4ISU said:
Just give it time...eventually Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, maybe a couple others are going to say, "Ok, that's enough, we pay all the bills and we want our share. If you don't like it, that's fine, you can leave." And they will have no choice but to stay because this is the corner that the SEC and BIG have painted them into. They'll be getting about the same as ISU, minus the money you get for accomplishment of course, because that will be what the market dictates. The Big Ten paying Iowa, Northwestern, Rutgers, etc much, if any more than they'd get in the Big 12 in this day and age just isn't going to last long.
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Lets say that that does happen and they go to an uneven distribution of the media money, the league is projected to be above $100 million per school at the end of the contract, if EIU and the others only get .80% of that, its still $80 million or twice what the B12 will be paying out to its members.
No matter how many ways you slice it, all the B10 schools are going to be setting a lot better than the B12 schools financially.
 
1SEIACLONE said:
Lets say that that does happen and they go to an uneven distribution of the media money, the league is projected to be above $100 million per school at the end of the contract, if EIU and the others only get .80% of that, its still $80 million or twice what the B12 will be paying out to its members.
No matter how many ways you slice it, all the B10 schools are going to be setting a lot better than the B12 schools financially.
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The SEC is about to lap everybody (the Big Ten included) in the next round of deals.
 
Tre4ISU said:
Just give it time...eventually Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, maybe a couple others are going to say, "Ok, that's enough, we pay all the bills and we want our share. If you don't like it, that's fine, you can leave." And they will have no choice but to stay because this is the corner that the SEC and BIG have painted them into. They'll be getting about the same as ISU, minus the money you get for accomplishment of course, because that will be what the market dictates. The Big Ten paying Iowa, Northwestern, Rutgers, etc much, if any more than they'd get in the Big 12 in this day and age just isn't going to last long.
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yeah.... I think the top schools in the B1G, which doesn't include Iowa, eventually will leave the B1G and join the top schools in the SEC that leave the SEC and create their Super Conference they've always wanted.
 
clonedude said:
yeah.... I think the top schools in the B1G, which doesn't include Iowa, eventually will leave the B1G and join the top schools in the SEC that leave the SEC and create their Super Conference they've always wanted.
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I don't think that will ever happen. They still need teams to beat. I do think unequal revenue sharing is right around the corner though.
 
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Sigmapolis said:
The SEC is about to lap everybody (the Big Ten included) in the next round of deals.
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They may end up giving out more per team, but that is mostly because the SEC only has 16 teams while the B10 has 18, so two less schools to pay out. Its doesn't help ISU no matter, just because the two conference are wealthy does not help ISU either way
 
clonedude said:
yeah.... I think the top schools in the B1G, which doesn't include Iowa, eventually will leave the B1G and join the top schools in the SEC that leave the SEC and create their Super Conference they've always wanted.
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We may not want to admit it, but Iowa likely makes that grade if that happens. Clearly top 1/3 rd football wise in the Big 10. .
 
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Cymark86 said:
We may not want to admit it, but Iowa likely makes that grade if that happens. Clearly top 1/3 rd football wise in the Big 10. .
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Top third in the Big 10 football doesn’t include Iowa. Top third would be OSU, Indiana, USC, Michigan, PSU, Oregon.

Iowa would be second tier.
 
1SEIACLONE said:
Would your rather be in their situation or ours? They have the money pledged to come in off their media deal, we do not. They are supporting more sports, and have been building up their facilities but they will be fine over east, ISU is not nearly in the same boat, as we are not going to be getting the money they are from their media deal.
Pollard stated we used our reserves to cover the $20 million this year, and will be forced to do it again next year, what happens after that, the reserves are now spent and we will have to come up with another $20 million?

We can all laugh and talk about the money problems of EIU, but there is not a Cyclone fan out there that would not change places with them today money wise. The B10 media deal will increase in payments far greater and faster than the B12 deal will. The buyout of Fran was not that much and from what I read was covered by boosters to get rid of him and they will make it back up quickly on ticket sells this year.
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Well said. We would take their situation 1 million times out of 1 million.
 
I don't know how it all works, but wouldn't an unequal rev share plan have to be approved by a majority vote of the conference members? In essence, half of the members (or whatever the quorum would be) would have to gain something from the decision or it wouldn't pass, and unfortunately Iowa would probably fall into the tier that benefits. To me it seems more likely that a handfull of Big teams could join the SEC for a better contract leaving the balance to fend for themselves, and I don't envision what remains would have monetary value greater than the Big 12. The caveat would be if the top of the Big 12 was poached at the same time. Football will be the driving force but will men's basketball influence any of these decisions or will we have separate conferences for each--anything is possible.
Ride it out for the time being, and when the current contracts are up, blow it all to hell. cause it won't be sustainable at the trajectory we are on now.
 
trajanJ said:
I don't think that will ever happen. They still need teams to beat. I do think unequal revenue sharing is right around the corner though.
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Yeah thinking the big ten is breaking up or going unequal revenue is just a fairy tale big12 members keep telling themselves. Don’t worry one day it will happen! It didn’t happen last media deal, but for sure the next one! Oh wait it didn’t happen then either? Ok well for sure the next one then!
 
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