Toxic work environment

Why can’t he or why shouldn’t he? He’s putting in his two week?
Actually, I think I'm just going to resign effective immediately. I can't imagine how things would be for those two weeks. The only way I'd do it is if I could work from home. But I am guessing once I provide the documentation, it will be a mutual clean break anyway.
 
Just out of curiosity, how old are you, how old is your boss, and how old is the HR manager?
I am mid 40s. Manager is maybe 30. HR is like 60 I'm guessing. And I have absolutely no issue with a manager younger than me. Have had that dynamic several times before. This one is just different...like she's actively trying to find things to say I have to improve. Yet no concern is client based. I am absolutely killing it with all my clients.
 
Actually, I think I'm just going to resign effective immediately. I can't imagine how things would be for those two weeks. The only way I'd do it is if I could work from home. But I am guessing once I provide the documentation, it will be a mutual clean break anyway.
Ok this is 100% a bad idea unless you already have that next job lined up.

If you do then send the CEO an invite to the meeting and just have fun with it, but if you don’t that’s just not smart.
 
I just got another meeting from my manager put on my calendar with her and HR again for 10 am tomorrow. I already know I'm putting in my two weeks then. But I'm coming armed with screenshots and conversations and emails and my personal takes on why I feel this company isn't for me. It's completely professional and factual but they need to know. My better half says I should ask that the CEO be invited so they know what's going on too.
Based off the Glassdoor comments, I’m guessing the CEO knows what kind of culture he/she has and probably doesn’t care. Best just to open the meeting with your notice before your boss and HR lay into you.
 
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Just curious if you could make a case for age discrimination.
OP probably has a better claim for constructive discharge than age discrimination. Usually you can’t claim that unless your older and passed over/treated differently than younger employees, but technically there isn’t a claim for “reverse age discrimination”
 
Actually, I think I'm just going to resign effective immediately. I can't imagine how things would be for those two weeks. The only way I'd do it is if I could work from home. But I am guessing once I provide the documentation, it will be a mutual clean break anyway.
give the 2 weeks … they will probably pay you it without working.
 
To be clear, 'metrics' are just weekly goals we have to fill out on how we are improving every week. Absolutely zero to do with clients or billable work. It's basically their way of having you show you're buying into their four core company metrics and goals.
Holy crap that sounds like BS to me. I thought it was x number of reports done, y number of customer interactions etc. .
I read stuff like this and I remember why I'm pretty much self employed.
 
I think they are making a case to fire you. I'm sorry and I hope I'm wrong. HR isn't your friend, they are there to protect the company. I have been unemployed for 5 months, so I feel for you.
Hope you find something you like soon.
 
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I am mid 40s. Manager is maybe 30. HR is like 60 I'm guessing. And I have absolutely no issue with a manager younger than me. Have had that dynamic several times before. This one is just different...like she's actively trying to find things to say I have to improve. Yet no concern is client based. I am absolutely killing it with all my clients.
Did you sign a non compete? Can you take your clients with you and freelance your job?
 
Take the high road and move on.

Inviting ceo's, screenshots of communications, he said, she said, etc. is draining and will come off as angry and vindictive, inspite of how well you pull these things together.

Focus all emotional energy on next step(s).
 
Among other things it sounds like you're being told to change your personality which is insulting and really just nonsense if what you do is effective for getting the job done.

What management doesn't often understand is that clients often appreciate when someone's genuine much more than a side show.
 
This is gonna be long-winded, so apologies. But curious if anyone has been in a toxic work environment and how you handled it. Note this is all from my perspective, and I am 100% aware a company/HR has their own perspective.

I started a job around 8 months ago. It's an ok company, but I was out of work for a while and needed SOMETHING so accepted their offer. I have 20 years of experience, and this job is knowingly (to the company and to me) very junior as to what I was doing previously. I don't think the work or the position was beneath me in any way.

My manager and I have a fine working relationship, but over the past few months, there is an increase of 'nitpicking' and meetings thrown on calendars to discuss what I consider maybe worthy of a quick Slack message. But I digress...it's how the company works so it's fine. It's things like 'you set your Slack notifications to mute for a few hours and that is a horrible look'. As an FYI, I am fully online, but when I'm head down and writing something I don't like to be disturbed. Anyone can message me, it's just that I won't get back to you for a bit. Also we have weekly metrics that are due every week, and company documents state 'share with manager weekly on Friday'. I share mine every week between 5 and 6...but got told that's past business hours. Fine, I can submit late afternoon.

The company also offers free mental health therapy which I think is great. Six weeks ago I scheduled my first session with a therapist and she had to reschedule, so I did. The second try, she just never joined the session. I informed HR of this and they were concerned and stated they'd flag it up to the highest people because that's not great. A month goes by. I follow up several times with HR and no updates. I schedule a different therapist, they cancel. I tell HR. It's now been six weeks and there is no update or resolve.

Manager throws calendar invites on my calendar with no agenda or topic of what it's for. To me, that is incredibly stressful. A couple of months ago, I told her I would appreciate if I had a sense of what meetings were about before heading into them. Nothing changed.

Had a meeting this morning with manager and it all went south. She brought up Slack and metrics and I said those are fair and I'll work on those, but it's frustrating to see that this types of things are huge concerns for employees but mental health doesn't seem to be. She immediately called me defensive and ended the meeting. Was I defensive? I was not happy but I was just being truthful in my stress and frustration.

She threw a meeting with me and her and HR on the calendar for this afternoon. I walked into a landmine. I stated my concerns, and HR person literally rolled her eyes and said she didn't believe me. Then asked why metrics were sent at 6:00 last week and truth be told, I was interviewing for another job, but I just said I was dealing with some personal matters and HR pressed me asking what personal stuff I was going through. I said it was private and don't have to provide that information, and she pressed me again asking specifically what I'm going through. That is, according to my HR friend I chatted with, horrible behavior for an HR professional and actually could be considered harassment.

Meeting ended with HR basically telling me I better put on my happy company face in my next meeting with colleagues, which is basically a threat.

There are countless other examples of red flags I could mention, but these were the straw that broke the camels back. I'm walking in tomorrow with documentation of what I consider a toxic work environment, and submitting my resignation effective immediately.

Am I too soft? I have never felt so disrespected for providing my view of company issues in my life. I'm too old to deal with a work environment like that.
Maybe, maybe not. But you should honestly consider if it could it be a you problem.
 
I don't discount that at all. I have often thought maybe it's me, maybe my personality and work doesn't vibe with the company.

Some people like the Fix It Felix style 'metric' type of stuff that does nothing but give them an ego boost to go out and tell everyone about (gross) and some people just want to do their job and...that's it.
 
Some people like the Fix It Felix style 'metric' type of stuff that does nothing but give them an ego boost to go out and tell everyone about (gross) and some people just want to do their job and...that's it.
Literally this is a Glassdoor review and it speaks to me:

Most of the folks in management are just controlling.It got to the point where I wasn't even paying attention to my clients' needs anymore and was more worried about upsetting management for something very minor and getting talked to (usually about something I was completely unaware of).I also felt like I couldn't get anything done for my clients because I was always appeasing management and their pointless preferences or meetings. My clients soon became a lower priority than management itself.It honestly felt like I was walking in a minefield and never knew which "management mine" was going to go off. You feel like you can't ever do anything right.Overall was not a great experience. Management was open to listen to the poor feedback but refused to do anything about it. This could explain the high employee and client turnover.

I did randomly hear a few weeks ago a convo between colleagues that there has been a 50% turnover the past year. Oof.
 
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Forgot to mention that I've been here 8 months and have been denied to take even a half day off of vacation. I have tried twice taking one day and was told it's just too busy. Yet there are people that have been there a few years and they're taking a full week off...and literally not going anywhere they are just doing a staycation at home. But myself, and probably other newer hires, get denied for asking for a day off to travel for a long weekend.
 
Actually, I think I'm just going to resign effective immediately. I can't imagine how things would be for those two weeks. The only way I'd do it is if I could work from home. But I am guessing once I provide the documentation, it will be a mutual clean break anyway.
My unsolicited advice: Don’t.

If you’ve got another job lined up and are ready to leave, then give notice before the meeting or wait a day or two after.

Hopefully being checked out will help you keep your cool during the meeting.

Save the unvarnished feedback for the exit interview.
 

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