YouTube TV Getting Ability to Split Into 4 Screens

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do people just not watch normal tv anymore?

local channels?

or do most of you just have tv specifically for sports?

the ease of use of YTTV is too good to pass up.

i can wait out a negotiation. these companies have a better incentive to get a deal done than not

We watch normal tv just for sports. Otherwise we subscribe to various media companies (HBO, Netflix, etc.) for our normal entertainment needs.
 
ESPN can go fly a kite. Hope YouTube stands their ground but they will probably cave and their service will be above $100/mo next month.
Yea the only people that will be negatively impacted by this will be the subscribers. ESPN will get more money and youtube will get more money. We do it every time.

Yet everyone celebrates the unprecedented TV contracts for their conferences. This is how they pay those contracts. They aren't spending money on sitcoms. The fans keep getting squeezed for more and more. Hopefully our last couple games are on fox. Looks like its all Walters & Heft for basketball.
 
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Yea the only people that will be negatively impacted by this will be the subscribers. ESPN will get more money and youtube will get more money. We do it every time.

Yet everyone celebrates the unprecedented TV contracts for their conferences. This is how they pay those contracts. They aren't spending money on sitcoms. The fans keep getting squeezed for more and more. Hopefully our last couple games are on fox. Looks like its all Walters & Heft for basketball.

Exactly. Fans crow about how much TV money comes flowing to their schools, but this is where it comes from. (Along with the endless commercial breaks that we all hate, as well.) You may not be paying through a collective or donations or contributing to NIL, but if you’re subscribing to a TV provider, part of those ever-growing subscription fees are flowing to the conferences. So we all helped pay for James Franklin’s buyout, congratulations everyone! :)
 
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If you really feel the need to get the ESPN channels in the interim, go sign up for a free trial of Sling, Hulu Live, or Fubo.

Don’t take the bait and sign up for ESPNs stupid $30 month sub because of this
 
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I always hate the brinksmanship when it comes to carriage fee disputes. It’s a huge pain in the ass for consumers, and we never come out ahead in the end.

In this particular case, I’m not in as dire shape as I could have been. I recently got antennas hooked up to (most of) my TVs, so I can still get ABC live. I also am hanging on to a legacy Verizon plan (that they are desperately trying to get me to change) that includes Disney+, ESPN, and Hulu … so I still have access to ESPN and my wife can watch ABC shows on Hulu on a delayed basis (which is how she watches them anyway, on YTTV library).

The ease and convenience is gone, forcing me to go back and forth between apps on a football Saturday to watch games instead of multi-screen on YTTV, but … things are still better than they were 10 or 15 years ago, I guess.

But just in general, the greed and unending demands for higher fees from the media corporations are just frustrating. Here I am trying to figure out how my investments will carry me through retirement, and between health insurance premiums, general inflation, and the up-up-up arrow on media subscription fees, I just don’t know how I’m supposed to chart out the cost of living down the road.

Disney just went up, HBO just went up, ESPN revamped their app for more fees, Fox and NBC/Comcast just had a dispute with YTTV - it never ends.
 
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I hate both of these companies so much. But, this is a recurring trend with Google/YoutubeTV. They had a fight with Fox in August, NBC in September/October, Monumental Sports (local sports channel in DC that covers Capitals/Wizards) - that they dropped a few weeks ago, and now this with ABC/ESPN. It's beyond annoying.
 
I hate both of these companies so much. But, this is a recurring trend with Google/YoutubeTV. They had a fight with Fox in August, NBC in September/October, Monumental Sports (local sports channel in DC that covers Capitals/Wizards) - that they dropped a few weeks ago, and now this with ABC/ESPN. It's beyond annoying.
It’s not just Google. I remember big fights between cable companies and media corporations, too, where carriage fee disputes ended up with channels being pulled temporarily, or permanently.

Google/YTTV is happening more now because they’re a big player in providing TV content - there’s nothing special about them being involved.
 
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It’s not just Google. I remember big fights between cable companies and media corporations, too, where carriage fee disputes ended up with channels being pulled temporarily, or permanently.

Google/YTTV is happening more now because they’re a big player in providing TV content - there’s nothing special about them being involved.
Yeah, but this happening almost every month with one of the big channels and getting the same stupid messages about "trying our best" is annoying and frustrating. I get they aren't the only one. But it seems to happen more frequently with them than it does with Hulu.

And I'm not defending Disney/ESPN. I hate them too.
 
I hate both of these companies so much. But, this is a recurring trend with Google/YoutubeTV. They had a fight with Fox in August, NBC in September/October, Monumental Sports (local sports channel in DC that covers Capitals/Wizards) - that they dropped a few weeks ago, and now this with ABC/ESPN. It's beyond annoying.
I'm guessing you're fairly young, back with Dish Network and Direct TV this was as routine as it with the streamers. You can try to avoid it, but it's pretty much a waste of your time and a part of life for a sports fan.
 
I'm guessing you're fairly young, back with Dish Network and Direct TV this was as routine as it with the streamers. You can try to avoid it, but it's pretty much a waste of your time and a part of life for a sports fan.
Nope, not fairly young. Never had Dish or Direct TV. Where we lived neither were an option. But I do know of people that had the same issues.
 
It’s not just Google. I remember big fights between cable companies and media corporations, too, where carriage fee disputes ended up with channels being pulled temporarily, or permanently.

Google/YTTV is happening more now because they’re a big player in providing TV content - there’s nothing special about them being involved.
This is worse though because they aren't just a provider, they are a competitor. It's not like TNT that needs a carrier, Disney is offering a competing product. And will likely win because Google is a carrier only. Didn't Williams and Blum make a comment about the 2029 tv negotiations? My guess is Disney is going to ramp up the push to get subscribers on their platform prior to that for leverage in the talks.
 
As a big football fan I just wish all these agreements wouldn't come up in the Fall all the time but the tv channels don't want that cause they know that is when they have the most leverage over these different cable & streaming companies.