When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 72 8.1%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 163 18.4%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.4%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 454 51.3%

  • Total voters
    885
Well, I finally got the approval from the powers that be to purchase a 2024 Silverado EV W/T. The 4WT model that is EPA rated for 450 miles with tonneau cover and bedliner. It is technically used but only had 60 miles when I purchased it in Oklahoma. It was originally delivered to a dealer in NY. They couldn't sell it, so they took the hit on it and put it to auction. I took the opportunity to visit my sister there when I picked it up. These models are presently selling cheaper than new at dealers. I got the white version because the black version is being sold by dealers for more, because of the demand; and they look better. Oh well though. We got it in Stillwater, went to Tulsa to visit my sister, tootled around there for a couple days, and then made our way home. Got it at 100% charge in Stillwater and made it to a fast charger just south of Kansas City at 9% charge. So in total I got about 350 miles before I needed to charge. Took it from 9% charge to 85% charge in about 45 minutes. Hit as high as 289 kW. The charger and Silverado are both rated for 350 kW, so I don't know why I didn't see closer to that number. Maybe I should have set it to condition beforehand. Oh well, still pretty good. We won't talk about the cost. I'll just say there is a price to be paid for a fast charger. $0.57 per kW plus tax.The powers that be were very upset about that. But I really like it. We have a Chevrolet Bolt EUV, and the powers that be were really worried about having another EV and making us pretty reliant upon the electricity costs.

That all being said, It has great technology but subpar creature comforts. The driver and passenger door arm rests are plastic and get annoying on a long car ride. The steering wheel is almost hard plastic too, but has a little give; also uncomfortable on a long car ride. It has no place to store sunglasses, doesn't have induction charging or heated/ventilated seats or heated steering wheel, and does not have a garage door opener, even if it would fit in the garage's current state. I still have yet to figure out how to tension the tonneau cover as it is saggy. There are bed lights but it takes three levels of submenus to that particular control menu. The console is huge and cavernous. I bought a shelf system that makes it look like it should have from the factory though. Those are my gripes. First world problems, amirite? Overall, those creature comforts are alleviated by accessory purchases or a compromise for not spending almost all of my annual salary. Although not having heated seats / steering wheel was almost a deal breaker for the powers that be.

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I had to rent a gas car this week.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY most people are ever going to want to go back to driving ICE after switching to EV.

It wasn't a horrible car but just the feeling you get driving it is terrible after getting used to an EV. I'd compare it to back when I only drove ICE cars, if I had a really nice new car almost off the lot then suddenly had to drive some old beater with 150k miles. That's the difference in how smooth and responsive it is.
 
Well, I finally got the approval from the powers that be to purchase a 2024 Silverado EV W/T. The 4WT model that is EPA rated for 450 miles with tonneau cover and bedliner. It is technically used but only had 60 miles when I purchased it in Oklahoma. It was originally delivered to a dealer in NY. They couldn't sell it, so they took the hit on it and put it to auction. I took the opportunity to visit my sister there when I picked it up. These models are presently selling cheaper than new at dealers. I got the white version because the black version is being sold by dealers for more, because of the demand; and they look better. Oh well though. We got it in Stillwater, went to Tulsa to visit my sister, tootled around there for a couple days, and then made our way home. Got it at 100% charge in Stillwater and made it to a fast charger just south of Kansas City at 9% charge. So in total I got about 350 miles before I needed to charge. Took it from 9% charge to 85% charge in about 45 minutes. Hit as high as 289 kW. The charger and Silverado are both rated for 350 kW, so I don't know why I didn't see closer to that number. Maybe I should have set it to condition beforehand. Oh well, still pretty good. We won't talk about the cost. I'll just say there is a price to be paid for a fast charger. $0.57 per kW plus tax.The powers that be were very upset about that. But I really like it. We have a Chevrolet Bolt EUV, and the powers that be were really worried about having another EV and making us pretty reliant upon the electricity costs.

That all being said, It has great technology but subpar creature comforts. The driver and passenger door arm rests are plastic and get annoying on a long car ride. The steering wheel is almost hard plastic too, but has a little give; also uncomfortable on a long car ride. It has no place to store sunglasses, doesn't have induction charging or heated/ventilated seats or heated steering wheel, and does not have a garage door opener, even if it would fit in the garage's current state. I still have yet to figure out how to tension the tonneau cover as it is saggy. There are bed lights but it takes three levels of submenus to that particular control menu. The console is huge and cavernous. I bought a shelf system that makes it look like it should have from the factory though. Those are my gripes. First world problems, amirite? Overall, those creature comforts are alleviated by accessory purchases or a compromise for not spending almost all of my annual salary. Although not having heated seats / steering wheel was almost a deal breaker for the powers that be.

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I lived through midwest winter hell most of my life without ever having heated seats/steering wheel and by chance my cars since I moved to CA have had them. The times I'm up high altitude camping in the cold I love it and can't believe I never had it dealing with brutal winters.

It is surprising for any EV not to have heated seats because it's more efficient for range than running the heater. I figured all EVs had heated seats for that reason, it's standard on my crossover EV model.
 
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Does anyone here have the F150 Powerboost hybrid?

I was hoping I could hold off on a new vehicle for another year, but starting to think I'll need something sooner.
I'm not a huge fan of hybrids in general, feels like adding more complexity for not much benefit. But a friend recently got a used one and he loves it
He's in the construction field though, so he said he uses the Pro Power generator almost everyday, which I wouldn't use nearly as frequently

Wondering if anyone else has experience with the hybrid and if they like or if they've had any issues
 
Well, I finally got the approval from the powers that be to purchase a 2024 Silverado EV W/T. The 4WT model that is EPA rated for 450 miles with tonneau cover and bedliner. It is technically used but only had 60 miles when I purchased it in Oklahoma. It was originally delivered to a dealer in NY. They couldn't sell it, so they took the hit on it and put it to auction. I took the opportunity to visit my sister there when I picked it up. These models are presently selling cheaper than new at dealers. I got the white version because the black version is being sold by dealers for more, because of the demand; and they look better. Oh well though. We got it in Stillwater, went to Tulsa to visit my sister, tootled around there for a couple days, and then made our way home. Got it at 100% charge in Stillwater and made it to a fast charger just south of Kansas City at 9% charge. So in total I got about 350 miles before I needed to charge. Took it from 9% charge to 85% charge in about 45 minutes. Hit as high as 289 kW. The charger and Silverado are both rated for 350 kW, so I don't know why I didn't see closer to that number. Maybe I should have set it to condition beforehand. Oh well, still pretty good. We won't talk about the cost. I'll just say there is a price to be paid for a fast charger. $0.57 per kW plus tax.The powers that be were very upset about that. But I really like it. We have a Chevrolet Bolt EUV, and the powers that be were really worried about having another EV and making us pretty reliant upon the electricity costs.

That all being said, It has great technology but subpar creature comforts. The driver and passenger door arm rests are plastic and get annoying on a long car ride. The steering wheel is almost hard plastic too, but has a little give; also uncomfortable on a long car ride. It has no place to store sunglasses, doesn't have induction charging or heated/ventilated seats or heated steering wheel, and does not have a garage door opener, even if it would fit in the garage's current state. I still have yet to figure out how to tension the tonneau cover as it is saggy. There are bed lights but it takes three levels of submenus to that particular control menu. The console is huge and cavernous. I bought a shelf system that makes it look like it should have from the factory though. Those are my gripes. First world problems, amirite? Overall, those creature comforts are alleviated by accessory purchases or a compromise for not spending almost all of my annual salary. Although not having heated seats / steering wheel was almost a deal breaker for the powers that be.

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How's the performance? Does it use a one pedal type setup? GM is putting out some nice BEV's and a lot of good ones in the pipeline.
 
How's the performance? Does it use a one pedal type setup? GM is putting out some nice BEV's and a lot of good ones in the pipeline.
I love the performance. It gets up and goes. Probably the same 0-60 time as the Bolt EUV. It definitely does not feel like it weighs almost 9000 lbs. It does have one pedal driving. It has three settings: off, what normal humans can stand, and break your neck.
 
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I lived through midwest winter hell most of my life without ever having heated seats/steering wheel and by chance my cars since I moved to CA have had them. The times I'm up high altitude camping in the cold I love it and can't believe I never had it dealing with brutal winters.

It is surprising for any EV not to have heated seats because it's more efficient for range than running the heater. I figured all EVs had heated seats for that reason, it's standard on my crossover EV model.
They saved money wherever they could. I looked online at a video where someone installed switch controlled heating elements under the seat covers. It looked like the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze.
 
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Does anyone here have the F150 Powerboost hybrid?

I was hoping I could hold off on a new vehicle for another year, but starting to think I'll need something sooner.
I'm not a huge fan of hybrids in general, feels like adding more complexity for not much benefit. But a friend recently got a used one and he loves it
He's in the construction field though, so he said he uses the Pro Power generator almost everyday, which I wouldn't use nearly as frequently

Wondering if anyone else has experience with the hybrid and if they like or if they've had any issues
I have the 2023 and similarly love it but the hybrid is a bit of a joke. Pro Power on board is phenomenal for tailgating. Of the 25,000 miles on mine I would be shocked if more than 2,000 were electric.

The mileage on my previous Ecoboost was better (makes sense....weight).
 
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I have the 2023 and similarly love it but the hybrid is a bit of a joke. Pro Power on board is phenomenal for tailgating. Of the 25,000 miles on mine I would be shocked if more than 2,000 were electric.

The mileage on my previous Ecoboost was better (makes sense....weight).
I might just do the ecoboost then
I drive about 30-40 miles per day on the interstate, so also would rarely get electric miles
 
Does anyone here have the F150 Powerboost hybrid?

I was hoping I could hold off on a new vehicle for another year, but starting to think I'll need something sooner.
I'm not a huge fan of hybrids in general, feels like adding more complexity for not much benefit. But a friend recently got a used one and he loves it
He's in the construction field though, so he said he uses the Pro Power generator almost everyday, which I wouldn't use nearly as frequently

Wondering if anyone else has experience with the hybrid and if they like or if they've had any issues
Powerboost is fantastic. Had one before I switched to a lightning.

If you are doing primarily highway, save your money and just get an ecoboost or lightning. Hybrid won’t benefit you much
 
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I finally bought the second of two cars we needed this fall due to having two new drivers. Looked very strongly at used EVs, but ended up getting ICE models.

The only ones in my all-cash-for-both price range had ranges of like 70 miles. Yes that would work 90% of the time, but I have to drive about 200 miles in a day about once a month on average and the place I visit doesn't have charging on site. And with 4 cars now we're not well set up to charge more than one at home overnight.
 
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So you paid $.57 a kw to fast charge your vehicle? A one time deal or every time you charge your vehicle? Is that high for a fast charge? I am looking at my electric bill, $.57 a kw would make my bill way too high.
 
So you paid $.57 a kw to fast charge your vehicle? A one time deal or every time you charge your vehicle? Is that high for a fast charge? I am looking at my electric bill, $.57 a kw would make my bill way too high.
That isn't the highest I've seen for public super fast charging. Last I saw Electrify America was $.63 in Albert Lea. That's why so many people are adamant EV doesn't work money wise if you don't have home charging you use primarily.
 
That isn't the highest I've seen for public super fast charging. Last I saw Electrify America was $.63 in Albert Lea. That's why so many people are adamant EV doesn't work money wise if you don't have home charging you use primarily.

I’d agree with them. I don’t see many people denying that.
 
So you paid $.57 a kw to fast charge your vehicle? A one time deal or every time you charge your vehicle? Is that high for a fast charge? I am looking at my electric bill, $.57 a kw would make my bill way too high.
That would be very high if it were a Tesla charger, but it is pretty common for an Electrify America chargers. Tesla ones usually run around 30-40 cents in the midwest. The thing people have to keep in mind is that 90% of the time you will be charging at home, and in my case that would be 11 cents per KwH.

IMO, If you can't charge at home or work, it really doesn't make financial sense for a BEV.
 
I have the 2023 and similarly love it but the hybrid is a bit of a joke. Pro Power on board is phenomenal for tailgating. Of the 25,000 miles on mine I would be shocked if more than 2,000 were electric.

The mileage on my previous Ecoboost was better (makes sense....weight).
My coworker bought one of the powerboost F150s last year. He likes it a lot but the switchover between the gas engine and the EV mode isn't as smooth as my Tundra hybrid. I would think that propower on board thing could be super handy for certain uses but I'm guessing I'd use it 2 times a year at most.

If anybody is looking for a lightning I found a hell of a deal on a 2023 Lariat with like 50 miles on it.
I was crunching numbers on it and I almost called them about it.
 
So you paid $.57 a kw to fast charge your vehicle? A one time deal or every time you charge your vehicle? Is that high for a fast charge? I am looking at my electric bill, $.57 a kw would make my bill way too high.
I have solar panels and have gone to time of use electricity rates. Charging at off-peak hours I pay $0.06 per kW. This charger was really expensive, probably because it could handle 350 kW per hour. I could have gone to another nearby that charged $0.37 per kW but it could only do 200 kW per hour. I was in a hurry to get my daughter to an event, so had to go the faster route. I would only fast charge as needed. My level 2 charging suffices for my daily needs.
 
Just as an example:

Last year, I used 3,804kWh, which I think was around 11k miles

It cost us $512
89% charging at Home(11 cents per kWh), 10% charging at Superchargers (36 cents per kWh). 3376kWh out of 3804kWh at home.

If I had a ICE vehicle that got 25mpg, it would have cost me $1602 at $3.70 gallon. $1,300 at $3 gallon

So, about $1,100 in fuel savings.

Of course that doesn't consider things like time saved by not pumping gas(especially in freezing weather), waiting for service, the cost of service, etc.
 
I have solar panels and have gone to time of use electricity rates. Charging at off-peak hours I pay $0.06 per kW. This charger was really expensive, probably because it could handle 350 kW per hour. I could have gone to another nearby that charged $0.37 per kW but it could only do 200 kW per hour. I was in a hurry to get my daughter to an event, so had to go the faster route. I would only fast charge as needed. My level 2 charging suffices for my daily needs.
As the batteries gain charge the speed slows down. Think of it like a parking lot. As the vehicles fill the stalls you have to slow down to find open stalls. Same thing with the batteries. If you took the battery to absolute 0 you could probably hit the 350 for a few minutes.

What is the battery pack size on the truck?
 
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