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Would you say the girls playing club volleyball generally are friends with the other players and that enhances their experience?

Honestly I have 3 boys I don’t know the experience with female athletes. My kids are friends with whoever they have on the teams. It’s not even like you’re friends with all the kids on the teams. Usually in my experience teams generally have groups of 3-4 that become good friends.
 
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There are quite a few 8 man schools that dropped this year too, by what I have seen.

Im curious what the numbers show, compared to years ago. Are less kids going out for sports across all sports? Are certain sports seeing more reduced participation than others? Are similar numbers still going out but the number of sports they are going out for is less? ie, years ago many more kids went out for 2+ sports and now concentrate on just 1. Is it because there are now more options that kids have to choose? (now kids have Soccer, Girls Wresting, cross country etc, that many didnt offer years ago) Is it just because of school size? (Which doesnt seem to be entirely the case since schools that easily had the numbers for teams now dont with same number of kids in the school etc.)

All of the above.
 
It appears that Shenandoah and Red Oak will start with the Western Iowa Conference in the next school year.


... Consensus from the Shenandoah School Board at its late Monday afternoon meeting was for the district to begin the transition from the Hawkeye 10 Conference to the Western Iowa Conference as early as next school year. Shenandoah School Superintendent Dr. Kerri Nelson says the Hawkeye 10 Board of Control recently voted unanimously to allow Shenandoah, Red Oak and Lewis Central to leave the conference at the conclusion of the 2025-26 activity season.

"They would prefer that all of the schools leaving the Hawkeye 10 leave at one time," said Nelson. "They would strongly prefer that that occur next school year for '26-'27...

... At the same time, Nelson says WIC officials recently indicated all schools entering or leaving their conference transition in the 2026-27 school year...

Lewis Central will join the Missouri River Conference.
 
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Because of receiving two forfeits, in addition to a solid win against Wapello, Van Buren County has a shot at the playoffs.
 
Club sports are killing the multi sport athlete and it's getting hard to be a multi sport athlete if you want to play a varsity sport in high school at a big school or in college at least at any level above D3. It's not impossible but if you want say play college baseball and you're not in some specialized training for that year round the deck is definitely stacked against you. On the flip side of that most kids will be money ahead if you were to dump all that money into a 529 instead of private coaching.


Here's the thing with that, several sports are already combined for the Waterloo High schools and several more are throwing kids out there that should be playing JV instead of Varsity. For whatever reason kids just aren't going out for sports. Might be socio-economic, might be the coach is an ass, could be a dozen reasons. Combining the schools doesn't really fix that. If you're one of those kids that plays a little but doesn't start and now all the sudden there's twice as many kids going out for pickleball why would you bother? There's a lot of people here that think this is going to solve Waterloos athletic woes but I just don't buy it. Talking with the former superintendent about this way before it was public knowledge they were looking into it because they were hoping this would allow them to consolidate some of the more advanced classes rather than having them half full at both buildings with two teachers to support it. The other thing with this is they built a fantastic technical program with 15 career paths that's already shared between the two schools and at the site where this new school is going. This would make it so kids don't have to drive between the buildings during the day like they are now.

Also there's a couple coaching vacancies at the high schools right now and in my opinion they should just combine them now rather than try and hire a coach for 2 years.
At a lot of schools it’s hard to get on the court/field in HS if you don’t specialize and play club, let alone play in college.

And as someone whose kids did club sports, you absolutely better not be looking at it as a financial investment with a return. It’s more like if your kid loves a sport, can’t get enough, and would rather have that than a PS5 and whatever else, then go for it if the means. My kid is going to go play at a JC tuition free, and we were light on the club stuff vs most, and I bet we’re maybe breaking even. To me it’s always been a luxury we were fortunate to be able to do.
 
At a lot of schools it’s hard to get on the court/field in HS if you don’t specialize and play club, let alone play in college.

And as someone whose kids did club sports, you absolutely better not be looking at it as a financial investment with a return. It’s more like if your kid loves a sport, can’t get enough, and would rather have that than a PS5 and whatever else, then go for it if the means. My kid is going to go play at a JC tuition free, and we were light on the club stuff vs most, and I bet we’re maybe breaking even. To me it’s always been a luxury we were fortunate to be able to do.
The bigger the school, the more competitive those spots are too. We did club baseball from 10U through 14U with a couple seasons of fall ball and a couple seasons of spring ball in high school with my oldest. If you didn't do that you weren't seeing the field. Football, at least for the skill positions you'd better be doing 7v7 in the offseason if you want to play. We also did club swim for a couple years. My sons schedule from the middle of his sophomore year through the end of HS swim season looked like go to in season practice (baseball or football) come home and grab a sandwich then go to a 2-3 hour swim practice then come home, maybe do a little homework and go to bed. Summer time was baseball, club swim and summer football workouts along with a lifeguard job. Then during HS swim season he had off season baseball too. Now that I have the benefit of hindsight I wouldn't trade the fun we had with club for anything but if you want to play more than one sport in HS it's a hell of a grind for those kids. We never forced him to do any of that but he knew how much work it was going to take to see the field, even at a school that isn't exactly a sports powerhouse. I don't think that if we were at a big school that was good at sports he would have sniffed the field in anything but swim and we probably would have pulled the plug on everything else by the time he was a sophomore.
 
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Fun fact. It was Waterloo East who played Ames and Freddy in the 1991 state basketball championship.

Different discussion for a different time but had East ever gotten a fair shake with the whistle at the state basketball tournament, they'd probably have won 5 or 6 more state titles in the 80s and 90s.
East played Linn-Mar in the boys state championship in 2004. Now remember I was just a young whipper snapper (8th grade) but I remember it being billed as streetball vs a disciplined team. LM won in a close game but that became the beginning of their long run and I honestly don't remember if East has done anything since.
 
East played Linn-Mar in the boys state championship in 2004. Now remember I was just a young whipper snapper (8th grade) but I remember it being billed as streetball vs a disciplined team. LM won in a close game but that became the beginning of their long run and I honestly don't remember if East has done anything since.
That was the end for East. That was the Mike Henderson, Carlton Reed, Frashon McGhee group.

Runner up in 02, Champs in 03, Runner up in 04.

I don't believe they've been back since and it's been a revolving door of coaches.
 
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That was the end for East. That was the Mike Henderson, Carlton Reed, Frashon McGhee group.

Runner up in 02, Champs in 03, Runner up in 04.

I don't believe they've been back since and it's been a revolving door of coaches.
WE at least has a functional boys BB program. Baseball has been not very good, but not completely terrible.

If you want to see catastrophic collapse, it’s the DM metros.

Most glaring example is girls BB. I think it was 2011 or 2012 DM East was undefeated state champs. I think they’ve won 2 games in 5 years. Only 2-3 years ago Roosevelt and North were pretty good teams. Now all the metro teams probably can only win against each other.
 
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WE at least has a functional boys BB program. Baseball has been not very good, but not completely terrible.

If you want to see catastrophic collapse, it’s the DM metros.

Most glaring example is girls BB. I think it was 2011 or 2012 DM East was undefeated state champs. I think they’ve won 2 games in 5 years. Only 2-3 years ago Roosevelt and North were pretty good teams. Now all the metro teams probably can only win against each other.
Waterloo East baseball has been ok the last few years. They've hovered right around a .400 winning percentage which is a whole hell of a lot better than West as been in that same time frame. Now granted the level of competition in the MVC is quite a bit stiffer than the Iowa Alliance but East probably has double the amount of wins in baseball in that same time period. From what I've seen, outside of football East has been respectable at most sports since they switched conferences. The next couple years are going to be interesting because there are school board members here lobbying in the background to start combining some of those teams that are borderline in terms of participation before the new school opens. There's already 3 or 4 sports for both boys and girls combined so you might see that Band-Aid get ripped off sooner rather than later. IMHO if there's a coaching vacancy between now and then they should just combine them and get it over with. There's no way they'd get a decent coach for any sport knowing they'll have to re-apply for the job in 2-3 years anyway.
 
Waterloo East baseball has been ok the last few years. They've hovered right around a .400 winning percentage which is a whole hell of a lot better than West as been in that same time frame. Now granted the level of competition in the MVC is quite a bit stiffer than the Iowa Alliance but East probably has double the amount of wins in baseball in that same time period. From what I've seen, outside of football East has been respectable at most sports since they switched conferences. The next couple years are going to be interesting because there are school board members here lobbying in the background to start combining some of those teams that are borderline in terms of participation before the new school opens. There's already 3 or 4 sports for both boys and girls combined so you might see that Band-Aid get ripped off sooner rather than later. IMHO if there's a coaching vacancy between now and then they should just combine them and get it over with. There's no way they'd get a decent coach for any sport knowing they'll have to re-apply for the job in 2-3 years anyway.
WE baseball reminded me of the DM metros girls BB teams right before they fell off the cliff. Varsity level was respectable but the lower levels really struggled.

Big school conferences are such a crazy thing. Luckily in baseball you can schedule enough no -con to even out the schedule in either direction. Alliance is a weak conference but Ames schedules maybe 15 games against CIML, Kennedy, Cedar Falls to try to balance it out a bit.
 
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Waterloo East baseball has been ok the last few years. They've hovered right around a .400 winning percentage which is a whole hell of a lot better than West as been in that same time frame. Now granted the level of competition in the MVC is quite a bit stiffer than the Iowa Alliance but East probably has double the amount of wins in baseball in that same time period. From what I've seen, outside of football East has been respectable at most sports since they switched conferences. The next couple years are going to be interesting because there are school board members here lobbying in the background to start combining some of those teams that are borderline in terms of participation before the new school opens. There's already 3 or 4 sports for both boys and girls combined so you might see that Band-Aid get ripped off sooner rather than later. IMHO if there's a coaching vacancy between now and then they should just combine them and get it over with. There's no way they'd get a decent coach for any sport knowing they'll have to re-apply for the job in 2-3 years anyway.
With the district cycle, they're going to have to combine football for '27 instead of waiting until '28. I've heard from several people that Lonnie thinks he's getting the job which would be a terrible mistake but it would be the most Waterloo thing ever.

They should absolutely combine everything now other than volleyball and basketball.
 
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With the district cycle, they're going to have to combine football for '27 instead of waiting until '28. I've heard from several people that Lonnie thinks he's getting the job which would be a terrible mistake but it would be the most Waterloo thing ever.

They should absolutely combine everything now other than volleyball and basketball.
Is Lonnie the guy who was a belmond klemme for a bit?
 
@BCClone is the Top of Iowa Conference imploding? Saw somewhere that Eagle Grove, Forrest City, and Garner are leaving for the North Central and I think North Butler might be leaving for the Iowa Star.... Lol at that.
 

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