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Curious why? Because he’s streaky?

Happ has been consistent at a 4.0 WAR since 2022. Add in his leadership and I’ll take that all day rather than rolling the dice to find a better and cost-effective replacement.

The issue is the entire team is streaky. I know that's baseball, but Nico is about the only guy you can count on for consistent at bats. Year after year Happ will disappear for about 2 months straight. We need to either overhaul approaches or find guys that can work ABs and get on base.
 
I would absolutely take Schwarber on the right deal. It would just not have anything to do with Tucker.

Schwarber is coming off his best season ever and will be 33. Could he keep it up for a few year? Possibly. Maybe.

He definitely brings more slug and maybe "clutch" than Tucker but Tucker does everything else better. Hits for a higher average, gets on base more, walks are similar, strikes out FAR less, can actually play defense.
Schwarber does 2 things exceptionally well, hitting homeruns and driving in runs. Tucker does many things well but not exceptional at anything. His defense is average to below average at best. I still wonder how he won a gold glove in Houston.
 
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Schwarber does 2 things exceptionally well, hitting homeruns and driving in runs. Tucker does many things well but not exceptional at anything. His defense is average to below average at best. I still wonder how he won a gold glove in Houston.
White Sox fan here...so you guys know way more about this than I do! But this season seemed difficult beyond reason for Tucker! Was it pressure of playing for a new team? Playing in a "walk" season of a contract? Pressure of being "the guy to push the team to the top"? Or is he injured moreso that we know? He was so solid in Houston but never seemed to be the "face" of the Astros. He seems like a guy that is easy to cheer for but sometimes the struggles this season were more than expected? He is too young to be aging out...
 
Schwarber does 2 things exceptionally well, hitting homeruns and driving in runs. Tucker does many things well but not exceptional at anything. His defense is average to below average at best. I still wonder how he won a gold glove in Houston.
Like I said, I love Schwarber. I just think these are different conversations.

I don't think the Cubs want to have a designated DH in a perfect world, and they certainly don't want to pay big money for one. It just limits flexibility so much. They did it this year out of necessity and it made it almost impossible to get the young guys in there that deserve a chance.

Also, half of this forum hates guys who don't hit for average and strike out a ton. I'd hate for them to look at Schwarbers splits.
 
White Sox fan here...so you guys know way more about this than I do! But this season seemed difficult beyond reason for Tucker! Was it pressure of playing for a new team? Playing in a "walk" season of a contract? Pressure of being "the guy to push the team to the top"? Or is he injured moreso that we know? He was so solid in Houston but never seemed to be the "face" of the Astros. He seems like a guy that is easy to cheer for but sometimes the struggles this season were more than expected? He is too young to be aging out...

My theory knowing not much about Kyle Tucker other than his time in Chicago and seeing his stats. He doesn’t seem like a vocal, #1 clubhouse leader. Seems like a very, very good everyday player and leaves the vocal leadership to others. Nothing wrong with that but there is nothing that screams “face of the franchise” with that guy.
 
Like I said, I love Schwarber. I just think these are different conversations.

I don't think the Cubs want to have a designated DH in a perfect world, and they certainly don't want to pay big money for one. It just limits flexibility so much. They did it this year out of necessity and it made it almost impossible to get the young guys in there that deserve a chance.

Also, half of this forum hates guys who don't hit for average and strike out a ton. I'd hate for them to look at Schwarbers splits.

Actual big market teams will pay for Schwarbers power at DH and ignore the fact they are paying for someone who doesn't play defense. Teams like the Cubs will use him not playing the field as a rationale to say the money is better of spent elsewhere, only to not spend the money elsewhere.
 
White Sox fan here...so you guys know way more about this than I do! But this season seemed difficult beyond reason for Tucker! Was it pressure of playing for a new team? Playing in a "walk" season of a contract? Pressure of being "the guy to push the team to the top"? Or is he injured moreso that we know? He was so solid in Houston but never seemed to be the "face" of the Astros. He seems like a guy that is easy to cheer for but sometimes the struggles this season were more than expected? He is too young to be aging out...

The pressure argument doesn't seem to make a ton of sense since he raked early on. You'd think he'd be under pressure and uncomfortable early on, then ease into his new surroundings. I think he was hurt and it effected his swing and he just couldn't ever get his timing all the way back. What you do with that in a contract year? Who knows.

The stoic stuff doesn't bother me. You don't become a player of his ability by not caring. When PCA chucks a helmet he's too emotional. When Miz celebrates like a goofball in the 3rd inning of a playoff game he's trying to hard. When Tucker doesn't show much emotion in his struggles he doesn't care. It's just hard to please everyone.
 
Schwarber does 2 things exceptionally well, hitting homeruns and driving in runs. Tucker does many things well but not exceptional at anything. His defense is average to below average at best. I still wonder how he won a gold glove in Houston.
He has one of the best eyes at the plate I have ever seen and is going to thrive with the robo ump strike zone.
 
Actual big market teams will pay for Schwarbers power at DH and ignore the fact they are paying for someone who doesn't play defense. Teams like the Cubs will use him not playing the field as a rationale to say the money is better of spent elsewhere, only to not spend the money elsewhere.
I 100% disagree with this. Show me a player that was signed as a DH making more than 20m this year.

Edit: not saying Schwarber won't make more than that this next year, but its not something that is normally paid for. I could see Kyle getting 3/75 maybe?
 
White Sox fan here...so you guys know way more about this than I do! But this season seemed difficult beyond reason for Tucker! Was it pressure of playing for a new team? Playing in a "walk" season of a contract? Pressure of being "the guy to push the team to the top"? Or is he injured moreso that we know? He was so solid in Houston but never seemed to be the "face" of the Astros. He seems like a guy that is easy to cheer for but sometimes the struggles this season were more than expected? He is too young to be aging out...
There is no doubt injuries played a part of his 2nd half struggles. How much I don't know but it was obvious that after he got hit in the hand his production took a dive then the calf injury at the end of the season he sure looked like he lost a lot of pop in bat too. I don't blame him as a competitor for wanting to play through injuries but it probably costs him a lot of money by doing so. Being a contract year too he probably was pressing late in the season too to try and regain the level he was playing in the 1st half of the season.

I do blame the Cubs management for either not properly diagnosing his hand injury or not forcefully shutting him down for a bit with an IL stint to let it heal properly. The Cubs have a pretty bad track record recently about not properly managing injured players IMO and I don't think it's just a coincidence anymore it' becoming a trend.
 
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Actual big market teams will pay for Schwarbers power at DH and ignore the fact they are paying for someone who doesn't play defense. Teams like the Cubs will use him not playing the field as a rationale to say the money is better of spent elsewhere, only to not spend the money elsewhere.
We will pay for DFAd scrubs before we go after a high powered bat like Schwarbs.
 
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I would absolutely take Schwarber on the right deal. It would just not have anything to do with Tucker.

Schwarber is coming off his best season ever and will be 33. Could he keep it up for a few year? Possibly. Maybe.

He definitely brings more slug and maybe "clutch" than Tucker but Tucker does everything else better. Hits for a higher average, gets on base more, walks are similar, strikes out FAR less, can actually play defense.
I would have been concerned about his age, but from what I was seeing, some think he could maintain or build on his success for several more years…which they said is indeed unique (would normally be at or near the end of his peak). Schwarber could be a much better value in that way. With Tucker, you have to assume you’re paying 8+ years, but the last half of that contract you are likely seeing diminishing returns. With Schwarber, you may pay for 5 years and get 4 or 5 years of peak performance.
 
He has one of the best eyes at the plate I have ever seen and is going to thrive with the robo ump strike zone.
I think the robo ump will not help Tucker. Tucker usually got borderline calls in his favor due to his reputation. It will actually help free swingers like Schwarber.
 
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Mo is 21. It's not the end of the world if he doesn't necessarily have a defined role going into next year.

This is not directed at you, but there are multiple people who want to trade Happ and/or Seiya, and I get it. But be careful what you wish for. The chances of Caissie or Alcantara or Mo having better offensive years than those guys as rookies is not likely. MAYBE Mo, but he's also a liability defensively.
I can only speak for myself. When I call for the Cubs to trade Happ, it's not to make a pathway for Cassie or Alcantara to start like the Cubs did for Shaw. Rather the Cubs need to sign or trade for a proven power hitting LF.

Along with bench upgrade for Justin Turner. A player who can compete with Ballesteros for at bats at DH and fill in around the infield.

I would also hope the Cubs develop a plan for Caissie or Alcantara to be Cubs 4th OF and get 150+ PA's over the course of the 2026 season.
 
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My theory knowing not much about Kyle Tucker other than his time in Chicago and seeing his stats. He doesn’t seem like a vocal, #1 clubhouse leader. Seems like a very, very good everyday player and leaves the vocal leadership to others. Nothing wrong with that but there is nothing that screams “face of the franchise” with that guy.
PCA is definitely a face of franchise type of player. And I imagine when his rookie contract comes to an end the Cubs will pay him.