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Sounds steep, but sometimes a few of the plugs on a 6 or 8 cylinder can be hard to reach without a lot of work, worst case, removing the engine.Firestone wanted $700 to change the 6 spark plugs in our 2015 Enclave that has 150k miles.
85,000 got a lot of life there, if Midwest car cancer, isn't eating it up too muchMy daughter is driving grandmas 1996 Toyota camry LE 85,000 miles on it. Her friends call it Nana.
Ya the GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection). It allows for the most efficient use of gas MPGs, but it allows carbon build up on the valves. GDI injectors shoot gas directly into the cylinder, after the intake valves. Port Injection has the injectors in the intake right before the intake valves and the gas would clean the top of the valves. Since this doesn't happen with GDI, the valves can get very gunked up with oil from the evap system (sends some oil through the intake to be burn in the combustion cylinder).
So long story short top tier gasoline is supposed to help with this.
Garaged its entire life. Little spot of rust on front other than that it's perfect. Little old lady church car.85,000 got a lot of life there, if Midwest car cancer, isn't eating it up too much
A. Buy older Toyotas
B. Maintain them.
Wife has an LS460 that believe it or not is still under warranty as a 14 w 140k. Best $5000 I’ve spent on a car as the headlights were $2100 EACH.
I’ve got a 2020 Tundra 1794 w 115k that I won’t be trading off until they bring back a v8.
Also got a 06 SC430 with 200k I bought at a Richie Brothers equipment auction. It’s my cheap German ‘midlife crisis’ convertible.
If anyone wants a 230k mile 2001 RUST FREE TX Land Cruiser in excellent mechanical condition as a builder…hit me up. Bought it for kids…don’t ever drive it as it doesn’t scratch an itch I don’t have a solution for already.
But I want it to go to a good home and up there a rust free 4x4 is a lot harder to find.
What’s the frame look like?Garaged its entire life. Little spot of rust on front other than that it's perfect. Little old lady church car.
Anecdotal for sure, but in my experience Ram/Stellantis isn't gonna make it in the 'run forever' category. Work vehicle (Ram classic 1500) has 69K on it, I've had it for just under 2 years. Been in the shop now for 9 of those ~100 weeks (and Is in there now, for at least another 1.5 weeks...)It's crazy to me what has happened to car prices.
10 years ago, the average price was $33,543. This year it will be $50,080. That's a 4.1% annual increase. That's not great.
From 2019 to 2024, the average price went from $36,824 to $48,644. That's a 5.7% annual increase. This is insane.
The Three Distinct "Villains" of Inflation
1. The "Upmarket" Aggressor: Stellantis (Jeep & Ram)
Stellantis is the clear winner (or loser, depending on your view) of the price hike wars.
- What happened: They aggressively pushed Jeep into luxury territory. The Grand Wagoneer ($90k+) and highly optioned Wranglers/Ram trucks dragged their average price up by over $15,000.
- The Result: This strategy eventually backfired. By late 2024, Stellantis had some of the highest unsold inventory in the country because they had priced out their core customers.
2. The "Budget" Abandoners: Honda, Kia, & Hyundai
These brands show the highest percentage jumps (30%+) because they fundamentally changed what they sell.
- Honda: In 2019, they sold thousands of Civics and Fits for under $22k. By 2024, the Fit was dead, and the average CR-V or Pilot buyer was spending $40k+.
- Kia/Hyundai: They pulled off a massive rebrand. They stopped being the "cheap alternative" and started selling high-end SUVs like the Kia Telluride and Hyundai Palisade, which often sell for $50k+.
3. The Truck Giants: Ford & GM
Their percentage increase is lower (~23-24%), but that's misleading because they were already expensive in 2019.
- What happened: They didn't need to change their strategy; they just doubled down on it. They largely killed off their sedan lines (Ford Fusion, Chevy Impala/Malibu) to focus almost exclusively on F-Series and Silverado trucks, which naturally transact at higher prices.
My brother in law got it up on his lift says it looks good as he was checking the brakes, struts, tie rods, tires and such before my daughter took it over. Didn't want to put her in a death trap.What’s the frame look like?
I've heard VW/Audi are know offenders on GDI carbon buildup.I read up on this a few months ago when I was looking at early 2010 Audis and BMWs. Carbon build up was a common issue on all direct injection cars of that vintage, but the performance impacts were more noticeable on some than others. Since then, fuel systems have continued to evolve and it's not as much of a problem anymore.
I ended up getting a 2009 Cadillac CTS (direct injected).
Never Chrysler or whatever they call themselves these days…owned by Fiat makes it even worse.Anecdotal for sure, but in my experience Ram/Stellantis isn't gonna make it in the 'run forever' category. Work vehicle (Ram classic 1500) has 69K on it, I've had it for just under 2 years. Been in the shop now for 9 of those ~100 weeks (and Is in there now, for at least another 1.5 weeks...)
Most of it I believe is ham fisted technicians breaking things during routine maintenance, but its all been things that this model is notorious for breaking (oil filter/cooler related items, and fall out from bad repairs)
To protect the likely guilty party, I will spare the name of the Ankeny located dealer that has performed all the work...![]()
That’s really interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing.It's crazy to me what has happened to car prices.
10 years ago, the average price was $33,543. This year it will be $50,080. That's a 4.1% annual increase. That's not great.
From 2019 to 2024, the average price went from $36,824 to $48,644. That's a 5.7% annual increase. This is insane.
The Three Distinct "Villains" of Inflation
1. The "Upmarket" Aggressor: Stellantis (Jeep & Ram)
Stellantis is the clear winner (or loser, depending on your view) of the price hike wars.
- What happened: They aggressively pushed Jeep into luxury territory. The Grand Wagoneer ($90k+) and highly optioned Wranglers/Ram trucks dragged their average price up by over $15,000.
- The Result: This strategy eventually backfired. By late 2024, Stellantis had some of the highest unsold inventory in the country because they had priced out their core customers.
2. The "Budget" Abandoners: Honda, Kia, & Hyundai
These brands show the highest percentage jumps (30%+) because they fundamentally changed what they sell.
- Honda: In 2019, they sold thousands of Civics and Fits for under $22k. By 2024, the Fit was dead, and the average CR-V or Pilot buyer was spending $40k+.
- Kia/Hyundai: They pulled off a massive rebrand. They stopped being the "cheap alternative" and started selling high-end SUVs like the Kia Telluride and Hyundai Palisade, which often sell for $50k+.
3. The Truck Giants: Ford & GM
Their percentage increase is lower (~23-24%), but that's misleading because they were already expensive in 2019.
- What happened: They didn't need to change their strategy; they just doubled down on it. They largely killed off their sedan lines (Ford Fusion, Chevy Impala/Malibu) to focus almost exclusively on F-Series and Silverado trucks, which naturally transact at higher prices.
Firestone wanted $700 to change the 6 spark plugs in our 2015 Enclave that has 150k miles.