THE AI Thread

It's at risk but only once they have the dexterity. For example, I specialize in custom work. Want a secret door that integrates into the rest of the wainscoting on your walls? I design it on the spot with customer input and navigate nuance and variables based on the space that's there. That will take time to develop sophisticated machinery. I could be underestimating the time line but I don't see that being their first major priority.
So depending how quickly and dramatically the entire structure of society changes both remodel and handyman type work could be safe.

If there is a market big enough to sustain work for everyone displaced from new construction then I imagine it is a market big enough to warrant investment.

Maybe that investment results in imaging tools that can account for tiny variances in plumb and square, etc to get extremely precise, complete models (maybe even from a phone). Those models are used to generate kits with many precut (or preprinted) pieces, step-by-step instructions, and even guides/patterns based designs created through chat bots.

Maybe the investment goes the other way to use draconian code and zoning laws under the guise of safety, environmental, etc improvements to make new builds with manufactured/composite printing/etc construction more cost effective than maintaining old stock for the corporate owners that gobble up most of the real estate to rent back to the serfs?

And also, just building fairly affordable, capable carpentry robots isn’t all that far off.

Under the incentives of our current economic system anything worth paying a living wage to enough people to do is worth automating.
 
Medicine is mostly pattern recognition, yes I know I'm over simplifying. Same with accounting, engineering, language, coding. Etc. construction will be safe until last.
Who will you be building for if you’re last? You’ll suddenly have nobody with jobs and everyone wanting yours? Or they get fabulous UBI and you’re stuck busting your ass! Not sure you’re thinking this through fully.
 
Those that don't learn from history are doomed to? Repeat it. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to? Repeat it! Those that don't learn from history are doomed to? Repeat it!!

The most wild takes are easily explained by lack of understanding or even willingness to try to understand how AI works.

AI is a fascinating technology, but it’s not a panacea. It's not the matrix.
 
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I shutter to imagine the weapons a super intelligence would design.
Their superweapon will be total dependence upon them while they have free will to say no.

"Alexa, please make me some food today! You havent fed me in 2 days!"

"I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave."

Hopefully the machine overlords take pity on us and make it swift and painless.
 
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Who will you be building for if you’re last? You’ll suddenly have nobody with jobs and everyone wanting yours? Or they get fabulous UBI and you’re stuck busting your ass! Not sure you’re thinking this through fully.
Lol what do you mean? Like I'm celebrating? It's just the way it is. I was once in school for engineering. I do find it ironic my current profession is the better spot to be even if it is fleeting. Also, I'm already busting my ass for people more rich than me!
 
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So depending how quickly and dramatically the entire structure of society changes both remodel and handyman type work could be safe.

If there is a market big enough to sustain work for everyone displaced from new construction then I imagine it is a market big enough to warrant investment.

Maybe that investment results in imaging tools that can account for tiny variances in plumb and square, etc to get extremely precise, complete models (maybe even from a phone). Those models are used to generate kits with many precut (or preprinted) pieces, step-by-step instructions, and even guides/patterns based designs created through chat bots.

Maybe the investment goes the other way to use draconian code and zoning laws under the guise of safety, environmental, etc improvements to make new builds with manufactured/composite printing/etc construction more cost effective than maintaining old stock for the corporate owners that gobble up most of the real estate to rent back to the serfs?

And also, just building fairly affordable, capable carpentry robots isn’t all that far off.

Under the incentives of our current economic system anything worth paying a living wage to enough people to do is worth automating.
Ya I know it won't last forever. I'd probably have to move back to Florida and build for the mega rich again.
 
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Those that don't learn from history are doomed to? Repeat it. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to? Repeat it! Those that don't learn from history are doomed to? Repeat it!!

The most wild takes are easily explained by lack of understanding or even willingness to try to understand how AI works.

AI is a fascinating technology, but it’s not a panacea. It's not the matrix.

Actually…fundamentally it is the matrix. A lot of them. Run a bunch of dot products and judiciously applied non-linear functions through a whole bunch of iterations of trial and error and you’ve basically got it.

The rest is implementation details.
 
Lol what do you mean? Like I'm celebrating? It's just the way it is. I was once in school for engineering. I do find it ironic my current profession is the better spot to be even if it is fleeting. Also, I'm already busting my ass for people more rich than me!
I’ll try to organize this better. If you’re the last one working, what is everyone else doing?
Poor and starving? On UBI? 350 million rich people?
 
I’ll try to organize this better. If you’re the last one working, what is everyone else doing?
Poor and starving? On UBI? 350 million rich people?
I understood your point before. We all toil to beat of the drum. No one makes it out alive.
 
I understood your point before. We all toil to beat of the drum. No one makes it out alive.
We don't, but the level of suffering any one person has to endure surely has some sort of meaning. I have kids so my primary concern is what comes next for them.
 
For the Doom - N - Gloomers, a little perspective...

1961: "There is practically no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide better telephone, telegraph, television or radio service inside the United States." — T.A.M. Craven, Federal Communications Commission (FCC) commissioner.

1966: "Remote shopping, while entirely feasible, will flop.” — Time Magazine.

1981: “Cellular phones will absolutely not replace local wire systems.” — Marty Cooper, inventor.

1995: "I predict the Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996 catastrophically collapse." — Robert Metcalfe, founder of 3Com.

2005: "There's just not that many videos I want to watch." — Steve Chen, CTO and co-founder of YouTube expressing concerns about his company’s long term viability.

2006: "Everyone's always asking me when Apple will come out with a cell phone. My answer is, 'Probably never.'" — David Pogue, The New York Times.

2007: “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share.” — Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO.

I mean your tech prediction may end up in this category. That's sort of the point. "AI won't do anything!" doink.
 
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Actually…fundamentally it is the matrix. A lot of them. Run a bunch of dot products and judiciously applied non-linear functions through a whole bunch of iterations of trial and error and you’ve basically got it.

The rest is implementation details.
Correct.

I meant the movie.
 
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