Tesla Cybertruck

[ArgentCy]

I agree with you on most of this, but let's not pretend like he has anywhere else to pull this off.

He has the moon. I'm all for letting him do whatever he wants there. They could start a nice (read freaking crazy) cult.

 

[dirtyninety]

OK, now that I've made fun of how this looks, I'm starting to come around. Seems to me the single motor at $40k with the 250 mile range still has enough range and towing capacity for most people, myself included. What kind of credit could I snag for that? What's a charge time, and what's the elec. cost per mile? Also, what kind of actual range should you use between charges to optimize battery life? My bladder has a range of just about 220 miles. What strategies for coordinating peeing and charging can people suggest?

Someone answer all these questions for me or better yet just tell me what to do.

Pee in a milk jug and throw it out the window. It is the NAFTA thing to do.

 

[dirtyninety]

The fact this PR stunt is getting so much traction is proof of mind control. It is hard to believe that the window thing wasn't staged.....not saying I know why, but no way that was the first Zeta test on the stage.

 

[dirtyninety]

But possibly with unintended effects.

Lithium in batteries makes it the new Gold with current energy storage technology. Bolivia, S. America's poorest country, recently had a coup. It hasn't escaped attention that Lithium, for battery demand, is abundant in Bolivia and the coup ousted the first indigenous leader wanting to control native resources. Coincidence?

There are no indigenous people....only global citizens. We are all sharing and I want my Lithium.

 

[HFCS]

One doesn't have anything to do with the other.

Musk does business in this country because each of his companies relies on a massive amount of government subsidies. I don't question his visionary ability. Where I question him, is in the one area that he does share similarity with Zuckerburg, in that he has no operational person giving him reality checks.

Seems like a very odd choice of someone to be bothered by among everyone doing business in this country. We've already benefitted greatly by our investment in his companies, drastically more than we get from most of our investments.

It's not like space and EVs aren't absolutely critical for the future. We'd be way behind global competitors without him in the former and losing ground in the latter without spacex.

 

[FinalFourCy]

One doesn't have anything to do with the other.

Musk does business in this country because each of his companies relies on a massive amount of government subsidies. I don't question his visionary ability. Where I question him, is in the one area that he does share similarity with Zuckerburg, in that he has no operational person giving him reality checks.

Lol, nope.

Nothing compared to the “subsidies” that an EV or solar company could get in the EU or China. The ability for EVs to quickly gain a large marketshare is higher in Europe and even China, as well.

Tesla is getting what auto companies and other similar industries have survived on for decades.

 

[SpokaneCY]

He's a billion times the visionary as Zuck and not trying to destroy our elections with taking money off false adverting.

We're very lucky he has chosen to do his business in our country.

I am a HHHUUUGGGEEE SpaceEx fan and what he's done there is nothing short of remarkable.

 

[somecyguy]

Seems like a very odd choice of someone to be bothered by among everyone doing business in this country. We've already benefitted greatly by our investment in his companies, drastically more than we get from most of our investments.

Like I said in my original post, I was previously in the solar industry. His constantly media blitzes about his latest concept that will never make to market or at a justifiable price, was harmful to the entire industry. I don't hate hate hate the guy, I'm just fatigued by him and wish he would surround himself with Ops people that he would listen to.

 

[somecyguy]

Lol, nope.

Nothing compared to the “subsidies” that an EV or solar company could get in the EU or China. The ability for EVs to quickly gain a large marketshare is higher in Europe and even China, as well.

Tesla is getting what auto companies and other similar industries have survived on for decades.

LOL, if you are going to compare the US to China, then I won't bother discussing this further. Musk isn't going to run his company in China where the subsidy comes from the government OWNING the company. Not remotely comparable.

 

[HFCS]

LOL, if you are going to compare the US to China, then I won't bother discussing this further. Musk isn't going to run his company in China where the subsidy comes from the government OWNING the company. Not remotely comparable.

China and India have a choice between going all EV or to stop breathing.

Americans who don't want a share of those guaranteed markets are insane.

 

[FinalFourCy]

LOL, if you are going to compare the US to China, then I won't bother discussing this further. Musk isn't going to run his company in China where the subsidy comes from the government OWNING the company. Not remotely comparable.

JFC.
No one said he’s moving it to China, but you’re kidding yourself if you think individuals can’t get rich off of selling out to Chinese interests. The vacuum that is EV technology easily could have been filled by China.

But given your previous posts on this, you’re either ignorant or prejudice on this matter. Tesla is a remarkable success story, overcoming without any abnormal help.

 

[khardbored]

Dad, is that you? Don't forget the five buckle overshoes.

You only hit on half the truck-driving demographic. The other half wants to make sure they have a high-quality bed cover with easy access so they can haul their kids' duffel bag to basketball practice. I mean, a man's gotta haul ****, ya know?

Also needs to drive his huge pickup with dual rear tires to park in the garage in downtown DSM at Wells Fargo or Principal

 

[nfrine]

OK, now that I've made fun of how this looks, I'm starting to come around. Seems to me the single motor at $40k with the 250 mile range still has enough range and towing capacity for most people, myself included. What kind of credit could I snag for that? What's a charge time, and what's the elec. cost per mile? Also, what kind of actual range should you use between charges to optimize battery life? My bladder has a range of just about 220 miles. What strategies for coordinating peeing and charging can people suggest?

Someone answer all these questions for me or better yet just tell me what to do.

You will have plenty of time to pee...might take an hour or more to fully charge.

 

[besserheimerphat]

I understand that. There is a reason why every Camry, Fusion, Accord, etc look largely the same. Same goes for trucks and SUVs. I drive an FJ Cruiser because it is unique.

I do think Tesla will either redesign this one, or come out with a more traditional truck before this goes to production. Musk's ego will push this to be something for a couple of years though. He said from the beginning this will be polarizing, and he was right. Part of me thinks it was designed this way because of it being polarizing. He knew that it would get people talking, and the majority wouldn't like it. If it looked just like the Rivian (which is a good looking truck) the excitement would fade much faster than having something with some controversy.

As engineering tools get better and car companies continue to optimize their designs, it's not surprising that cars converge to one particular style. The reason Corvette went mid-engine was because they'd reached the end of the performance curve for the front engine/rear wheel drive layout.

 

[BryceC]

Where I question him, is in the one area that he does share similarity with Zuckerburg, in that he has no operational person giving him reality checks.

where does he need a reality check?

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

He claims there are already 200k ordered.

 

[CTTB78]

He claims there are already 200k ordered.

That's a lot of Californians driving pick-ups.

 

[KnappShack]

That's a lot of Californians driving pick-ups.

You might be on to something

A few years ago those stupid Hummers and H2 trucks were everywhere. Even a few of those womanly H3s were out there

This could be the eco version of this. Making a statement

 

[Dr.bannedman]

this thing ***** and i cant wait to use my farm subsidy moneys on it!!!!!!

 

[dmclone]

Also needs to drive his huge pickup with dual rear tires to park in the garage in downtown DSM at Wells Fargo or Principal

I've parked in these parking lots for 20 years now and trucks probably make up 1/15 vehicles. It's actually about 75% suv's. Although we do have 3 or 4 Tesla's.