We should let him stay, so we can lose to Kansas and be hiring for the undisputed: worst job in the Big 12.
Should Paul Rhoads be fired?
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We should let him stay, so we can lose to Kansas and be hiring for the undisputed: worst job in the Big 12.
No point in getting rid of Rhoads before the end of the season. No one on this staff should be retained, let alone hired as the HC. The only thing I'd like to see at this point is for Lanning to take the starting job. I know it was only a few plays, but he looked really comfortable in there last night. Plus, he can put his head down and run dudes over.
Does anyone else find the lack of front page content on CF intriguing? Big news coming? Lots of stories to write?
I want Rhoads gone NOW. IMO, he should have been released last year. Why do I support the mid-season firing? Well, it gives me a piece of mind knowing that CPR will NEVER coach ISU again, so that's a positive. It guarantees that he is gone and doesn't give him a chance to win 2 more crap games and give our AD some time to really think this over.
I also don't think Mark is the answer, but what can it hurt to give him a 9 game audition for the job? I wasn't happy with that TO last night either. Is CPR handcuffing the O right now? Maybe. And, as for the "players thinking about transferring argument," we have a lot on D right now that came out of the juco ranks, they're not going anywhere. But really, who cares if we have people leave? Our squad is horrible, and recruitment has always been low under Rhoads. A total shakedown in leadership MUST happen for ISU to move forward. Our fanbase deserves a winner, and it's simple, CPR is a loser.
I was hoping that he could turn it around as he is a great guy, that cares about ISU. Would have loved been proven wrong. But, he is a head-football coach and his job is to get W's. It looks just like the last 2 pathetic years already. He has GOT TO GO.
I just figured its because they know as well as everyone else that this is a dumpster fire.
I had been on the Rhoads bandwagon for a while but last night basically was the last straw for me. It would take a miracle to make a bowl game at this point. It's imminent that this season will spiral away just like last season did. It's time to get some new blood and energy into this program. ISU needs someone that isn't stuck in their old ways. Someone that's going to bring a fresh perspective. This is one of the best times to hire a new coach at ISU. Facilities are above average and the fanbase is still growing. I think Pollard has to realize this.
WRT firing midseason and putting a assistant coach (Mangino or anyone) in charge to see what happens:
If you want CHANGE in an organization, you don't hire from within. This is going to be true about 99.9% of the time.
If you want CHANGE in an organization, you don't hire from within. This is going to be true about 99.9% of the time.
Last night was just a repeat of a movie we have been seeing for quite a while. Going back to 2012, here's the track record in winnable, or what should be competitve, games. Paul Rhoads teams rarely miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I will grant that there have been a couple of fun wins mixed in over those four years, but it's just been blown opportunity after blown opportunity and it isn't going to change. In these games, ISU scored 23.5 on average, opponents 32.2. None of these results have anything to do with ISU being a "tough place to win". If Paul's teams pull out even one third or one half of these games, this thread doesn't have 130+ responses today.
2012
(L) Texas Tech 13-24
(L) K State 21-27
(L) WV 24-31
(L) Tulsa 17-31
2013
(L) UNI 20-28
(L) Iowa 21-27
(L) Texas 30-31
(L) T Tech 35-42
2014
(L) NDSU 14-34
(L) K State 28-32
(L) T Tech 31-34
(L) Texas 45-48
(L) KU 14-34
2015
(L) Iowa 17-31
(L) Toledo 23-30
2012
(L) Texas Tech 13-24
(L) K State 21-27
(L) WV 24-31
(L) Tulsa 17-31
2013
(L) UNI 20-28
(L) Iowa 21-27
(L) Texas 30-31
(L) T Tech 35-42
2014
(L) NDSU 14-34
(L) K State 28-32
(L) T Tech 31-34
(L) Texas 45-48
(L) KU 14-34
2015
(L) Iowa 17-31
(L) Toledo 23-30
I voted for the end of the season, but I want to clarify after that. The "if it has been unsuccessful" almost sounds like those choosing that option are still holding out hope. I'm not, I'm not trying to give him one last chance, I just don't see the point in doing it mid-season. Jamie should be planning now, but keeping it under the radar. Give these players a chance to finish the season without a circus show.
2012 was a major disappointment for me. Had nearly half the defense as All Big 12 players and won 6 freaking games! That team should have won a couple more games in a 8-4 statement season, but flopped. I was very soured after 2012.
Agree 1000%. Sitting in the stands for that game against WV and watching the end - I felt like that was a major turning point in the "invincibility" that Rhoads' teams played with. The opponents were getting almost scared to play us because of all the upsets, onside kicks, etc. that we were pulling off. When we lost that easily winnable game in the way we did, coupled with the bowl fiasco, that was the beginning of the end.
Saw this in another thread, but it seems to worth repeating here as well.
I don't know why you have to be an ******* about it. God forbid someone doesn't take joy out of bringing down players and coaches of the team that you support. Your life must be so unhappy if you have to spend a lot of time on a ******* message board belittling people for trying to see some good in a ****** situation.
I absolutely agree with your post! Granted this is a program in desperate need of improvement and maybe I am one of the few who sees improvement and has hope. In my lifetime I have seem more than my share of alcohol infused armchair quarterbacks who sit in the cheap seats and cast aspersions on the players and coach while lacking the intellectual acumen, leadership skills and warrior like mentality to personally contribute to this or any other program in a meaningful way! That is a sad testament to the Cyclone Fanatic moniker.
I have no idea why this post was made in response to me
If you don't think that a significant chunk of Cyclone Nation wants to see a change in the head coaching position, then you are burying your head in the sand. And the poll is pretty clear proof of that
The beginning of the end was the end of 2011 season, specifically how he ****ed up his second chance on offense with Herman leaving. There were huge warning signs from the get-go when he chose to marginalize a good group of maulers and ARob by going with Herman and the compressed, horizontal, long 1-yard pass offense we still see. That didn't make sense, but maybe he really had a 1-step backwards, 2-steps forwards plan. By the end if 2011 and with the hiring of Mess it became clear that wasn't the case.
