Casey is not healthy right now and with his style of wrestling it's not good.
Should Have Redshirted Swiderski
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I don’t remember for sure, but there is no way Meeks was considered anywhere near the level of recruit as Casey. #2 overall for Casey. Meeks was probably the top recruit if the ISU class, but not a top national recruit.
Meeks was ranked 2nd at 138 nationally. The problem was he never wrestled any of the big national tournaments. Maybe one his senior year.
In the end I think he as perhaps overrated and then had KJ as a coach which didn’t help.
In the end I think he as perhaps overrated and then had KJ as a coach which didn’t help.
Just sharing the similarities that I see. We can agree to disagree if you don't see em. Go Cyclones!
I’m just pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your post. No agree or disagree. Meeks was like 40-50 in his class. Swiderski #2 overall. Night and day.
Or you can just admit the accuracy of my post like another poster has already done. But hey, it's obviously your world and we're just living in it. Lol I'm out
Casey is going to be fine. He's elite, he is just adjusting to college wrestling, managing weight, and most importantly, he has a serious injury. Kid has to have surgery right after the season.
To call him a bust already is completely stupid and I can't wait for a couple years from now when he is competing for a title to bring this back up again..
To call him a bust already is completely stupid and I can't wait for a couple years from now when he is competing for a title to bring this back up again..
Hindsight posts are always silly. On this topic, mine would be:
Now that CS's season has been hampered by an injury and he's not doing so well as I'd hoped, I cannot believe that the staff didn't have the foresight to red shirt him.
Now that CS's season has been hampered by an injury and he's not doing so well as I'd hoped, I cannot believe that the staff didn't have the foresight to red shirt him.
I thought that at first but you see Casey face before any of it and you can see the hand move then quickly pull back?
Funny they left the part out with Casey taking his ass down twice the last minute and if he kept his big toe in for 5 more seconds the first takedown, I honestly think Casey takes him down off the bat in OT.
That match was a turning point for Swiderski. He's getting either Happel or Hart and possibly both. I don't care about Illinois but obviously want him to win, conference just means more right now.
Love this kid and am so glad he is at ISU.
That match was a turning point for Swiderski. He's getting either Happel or Hart and possibly both. I don't care about Illinois but obviously want him to win, conference just means more right now.
Love this kid and am so glad he is at ISU.
I'm in the Swiderski will be fine camp.
He'll keep learning and adjusting. I'm sure the staff is working on the mat wrestling, and that will come. I'm sure he's learning and adjusting some of those tactical things that can flip some of his losses, i.e., the difference a few seconds of riding time can make.
For this season, if he can make some tactical tweaks, keep his weight management right, and get back into that early-season berserker mentality, he'll still be able to open some eyes.
As for the talk of him not looking that big compared to the other 141 guys, body composition is a weird thing, and looks can be deceiving, especially with a kid who's fresh out of high school and still growing. To me, he looks fairly sucked out. I have NO idea how things will shake out for weights next season, but Casey is at his best when he's running wide-open, and I think bumping Casey up in the future would be more conducive to that style. That said, I'm just a dude in the stands. Maybe he can stay down at 141 and run wild with the right nutrition and conditioning. Time will tell.
He'll keep learning and adjusting. I'm sure the staff is working on the mat wrestling, and that will come. I'm sure he's learning and adjusting some of those tactical things that can flip some of his losses, i.e., the difference a few seconds of riding time can make.
For this season, if he can make some tactical tweaks, keep his weight management right, and get back into that early-season berserker mentality, he'll still be able to open some eyes.
As for the talk of him not looking that big compared to the other 141 guys, body composition is a weird thing, and looks can be deceiving, especially with a kid who's fresh out of high school and still growing. To me, he looks fairly sucked out. I have NO idea how things will shake out for weights next season, but Casey is at his best when he's running wide-open, and I think bumping Casey up in the future would be more conducive to that style. That said, I'm just a dude in the stands. Maybe he can stay down at 141 and run wild with the right nutrition and conditioning. Time will tell.
I’m optimistic he still figures it out this year. Win this weekend and I think he starts building the confidence back. He has been close and this weekend he finds away to finish.
John Meeks was ranked #6 in the entire class in 2012 by Intermat, just an FYI. His redshirt got pulled because of a great showing against Joe Colon at the Harold Nichols open.
But I still think Casey will be fine as well.
But I still think Casey will be fine as well.
Anyone think CS at 149 and PJ at 157 is a possibility for next year? I’m a less knowledgeable fan than many here, but I’m not a fan of weight cutting.
I don’t think Paniro has the height to succeed at 157 like he has at 149. I’m guessing it’s more likely Casey bumps to 157 (maybe after a redshirt year)
I'm thinking that PJ is a career 149. He looks strong and quick and I'd be afraid he'd either lose some quickness or horsepower moving up. If CS has to move up he's got the length to jump to 157 IF he could pack on some muscle. He appears more later maturing than PJ.
Edit: Opps, should have red Stu's genius reply before I posted
