SEC is looking bad so far

[AuH2O]

I wouldn’t take anything from bowl game results anymore. There’s are exhibition games that are determined by who has fewer players out with covid, or who’s star players are opting to not play, and/or who’s team and fans really care.

The problem is when trying to judge conferences it is one of the small handful of games where you have somewhat even matchups across conferences. Depending on conference, you have 8 or 9 games that are completely meaningless in determining conference strength. Then throw in the FCS, and buy-in games, and there aren't many points to use.

Somehow people looked at the SEC, saw that Georgia was doing well and assumed they were unbeatable. All the while leading up to the SEC CCG their Sagarin SOS was 51st.

 

[ISUTex]

the SEC East sucks. The West is Bama. And that's it.

 

[DarkStar]

The Lil 10 and the Sec is mostly just hype!!

SEC = Someone Else's Championship

 

[ISUTex]

Not to defend the SEC, but having the best 2 teams in the CFP does move everyone up two notches of difficulty. That doesn't help. But I think you will see that impact more in the higher bowl games like Arkansas and Ole Miss.

But I do agree that other than Bama & GA (and probably A&M, who won't play), there isn't much special about the SEC. Other than puffed up win totals from playing only 8 conference games.

Was Georgia that special? Alabama kicked their a@@. Offense didn't score against a 9-3 Clemson. Not impressed.

 

[Cydkar]

I'm confused. Does the SEC suck or will OU become average when they go over there? This board says both.

 

[dirtyninety]

Mizzou is still Melissa Click U. Seeing 6th round draft picks sit out bowl games for their supposed future worth is so......______.
Bama gonna win.
Oklahoma beat the depleted Florida team last year in the bowl....depleted by sit-outs. Five-Star culture is not sitting out your bowl game....you could tell something was very, very sick with Mullen and Florida program then. Five-star players...meh. Five-star warriors is what you want.

Last Play.

 

[dirtyninety]

I'm confused. Does the SEC suck or will OU become average when they go over there? This board says both.

This board does not want a game day thread for Bama/Georgia/Texas AM/Auburn/Tenn/Ole Miss/ARkansas....Hell, even Florida or Kentucky. It would be funny because it would be so predictable.

 

[ISUTex]

Oklahoma will be fine in the SEC. Texas needs a lot of work.

 

[clonedude]

News flash…. bowl games don’t matter outside of the playoffs.

 

[surly]

Five-Star culture is not sitting out your bowl game.

Irony galore.

 

[quadmann]

I'm confused. Does the SEC suck or will OU become average when they go over there? This board says both.

Yes.

 

[besserheimerphat]

And your point?

Wow, it’s shocking a 6 game sample is more consistent predictive than a one game sample.

You said looking at a bowl game result isn't much different than looking at another sample of games (injuries, being "up for games," etc.) That’s not true. Using the last handful of regular season games IS different than using bowl games. It's better.

It really isn't too much different than taking anything from any other part of the season. There will never be a perfect sample. Guys are injured, don't get up for games equally, etc during the season too

 

[ISU_Guy]

once the SEC goes to to 9 conference games a lot of those teams won't have their recipe to get to 6-6 anymore for sure.

 

[CloneGuy8]

I wouldn’t take anything from bowl game results anymore. There’s are exhibition games that are determined by who has fewer players out with covid, or who’s star players are opting to not play, and/or who’s team and fans really care.

Don't fall for this

 

[dualthreat]

Irony galore.

There’s no way your could be talking about Iowa State here. Campbell has had ONE guy sit out a bowl game his entire time here. And it is 100% justified

 

[WhoISthis]

You said looking at a bowl game result isn't much different than looking at another sample of games (injuries, being "up for games," etc.) That’s not true. Using the last handful of regular season games IS different than using bowl games. It's better.

I did not say "another sample of games". I did imply take any other part of the sample- a fair comparison. You thought that meant 6 games vs 1?

The fact you resorted to that is kind of the point- bowls are only meaningless if you hold them to a ridiculous standard that you would not hold any other singular game. "hey, the bowls don't mean anything because there is higher correlation if you look at 6 games" only shows how important bowl games are, because no one would even think of saying such a rigged stat for any other game.

Newsflash, bowls NEVER meant more than half the season. It has always been just one game, arguably the most important singular game, but still just a single sample, which means it is not conclusive of anything. That has not changed.

Are you shocked to learn that the NCAA tournament results are not conclusive of how good your team was or how good your season was, let alone what team is "best" team in college basketball? But it is what we use to measure success, so it is the most important.

 

[besserheimerphat]

@WhoISthis

1. Calm down. It'll be okay.
2. Be more clear so people aren't forced to rely on implications you never intended.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

There’s no way your could be talking about Iowa State here. Campbell has had ONE guy sit out a bowl game his entire time here. And it is 100% justified

I think his point was that Hall was the one that used “5 star culture” publicly and is the one sitting out. He found the posters comment ironic.

 

[JUKEBOX]

1. Bowl games are just as if not more important than any other non-conference game during the regular season. I have never heard a convincing argument that says otherwise.

2. ESPN signed a $3 billion deal for SEC football for the next 10 years (whereas the Big 12 has had issues renegotiating their contract). ESPN will come up with whatever narrative they have to to attempt to get as many SEC teams into the playoff as they can IMO. They will bring up stats if the SEC is doing well in bowls and likely ignore them or make excuses if the SEC performs poorly.

 

[JUKEBOX]

Also, regarding OU, I think they run the risk of giving up their blue-blood status going to the SEC.

It's no where near a guarantee, but their historical advantages in the Big 8, etc. was the ability to recruit Texas while playing against northern schools that had less of a recruiting pool (on national TV which used to be a bigger deal - now everyone is on TV).

I believe there's a good chance that their recruiting and perceived advantages may not be there with the SEC. However, if they can continue their good coaching run, they may be able to do okay. If not, they might turn into an Arkansas.

Probably a good move by Lincoln Riley to leave if USC was offering big money.