Replacement for Ruhle at Baylor?

[cycloneworld]

I think this year took just a little shine off of Matt Campbell to the NFL talk (which I'm all for).

Rhule has been rumored to the NFL for a few years now. Hopefully for ISU's sake, he goes to the Giants or Panthers this year.

 

[Cyched]

As much as I want Rhule to go to the NFL, can someone explain to me what his appeal is for these NFL teams?
Looking at his Wikipedia, his only pro experience is 1 year with the Giants as an assistant OL coach. And yet he was in serious talks with the Jets last year after a 7-6 year at Baylor.

Just wondering why NFL teams are giving him this much of a look considering many successful college coaches have flamed out in the NFL.

 

[besserheimerphat]

As much as I want Rhule to go to the NFL, can someone explain to me what his appeal is for these NFL teams?
Looking at his Wikipedia, his only pro experience is 1 year with the Giants as an assistant OL coach. And yet he was in serious talks with the Jets last year after a 7-6 year at Baylor.

Just wondering why NFL teams are giving him this much of a look considering many successful college coaches have flamed out in the NFL.

My cynical opinion is that the NFL is so conservative and afraid to try new things/give people a shot, that anyone with moderate success and the smallest bit of NFL experience is placed far higher than proven coaches at the FCS, DII and DIII levels who are doing the real innovation.

I think Manning's year in the pros was a pretty shrewd career move in that it gave him a much better shot at landing another NFL job if he ever wants it.

 

[chuckd4735]

What factors do you consider for ultimately judging a coach's performance? Asking for coach Parcells.

http://www.parcellsbook.com/parcellsisms-1

Bill Snyder was 8-20 in his first four seasons. This isn't the NFL.

 

[DeereClone]

I think Ruhle has done better when you look solely at results, but it is most definitely a competition when you look at all the factors.

what does this mean?

 

[ISUCubswin]

Possible replacement is Phil Snow, Baylor’s current DC. They had an unreal season this year and he has a history of putting together some strong defenses. Only real negative is he’s old, but he’d probably be their most stable option.

 

[CyTwins]

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Possible replacement is Phil Snow, Baylor’s current DC. They had an unreal season this year and he has a history of putting together some strong defenses. Only real negative is he’s old, but he’d probably be their most stable option.

Snow is 64. I was thinking Baylor's co-OC, Glenn Thomas (who was also Rhule's OC at Temple). He is Brewer's QB coach. Texas guy. Mid-40s.

Rhule to NFL is bound to leave behind more assistants than Rhule to USC or some blueblood college program, where he could bring his whole staff with him.

 

[Gorm]

Urban Meyer to Baylor. LMAO

 

[chuckd4735]

what does this mean?

Look at the location of the schools, the condition of the programs when each coach took over, etc. Again, not saying Campbell is the better coach, just saying arguments can be made to make it close.

 

[DeereClone]

Look at the location of the schools, the condition of the programs when each coach took over, etc. Again, not saying Campbell is the better coach, just saying arguments can be made to make it close.

ok I guess I “handicap” the results to match the difficulty of the job, so we are saying the same thing.

 

[CycloneNorth]

Bill Snyder was 8-20 in his first four seasons. This isn't the NFL.

I know Snyder is old but I have a hard time believing K State was only playing 7 games a year.

 

[IASTATE07]

I know Snyder is old but I have a hard time believing K State was only playing 7 games a year.

Only played 1 game that 4th season due to the start of the Civil War.

 

[t-noah]

I know Snyder is old but I have a hard time believing K State was only playing 7 games a year.

I love people who have an eye for detail!

 

[t-noah]

Only played 1 game that 4th season due to the start of the Civil War.

Haha! About right if I remember correctly!

 

[beentherebefore]

I know Snyder is old but I have a hard time believing K State was only playing 7 games a year.

Big 8 games. Only seven per year.

 

[CySmurf]

Jim Criner isn't doing anything...
...that could be because he's dead but I'd make him their frontrunner anyway.

 

[BCClone]

Jim Criner isn't doing anything...
...that could be because he's dead but I'd make him their frontrunner anyway.

Jim Walden is available

 

[surly]

I know Snyder is old but I have a hard time believing K State was only playing 7 games a year.

Never take Chuck seriously unless he's defending cheatin' Bill Self. Bill Snyder was 18-26 his first four. 9-2-1 his 5th with a bowl win.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/bill-snyder-1.html

 

[CyclonesRock]

Jim Walden is available

I lived through both of these "Jim's" during my time at ISU. That is why I will never say a negative thing about the current state of the football program under CMC!