Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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With the current trajectory of this mess it's inevitable that A&M or Texas jumps to the Big Ten, short of a full merger between the two conferences and even then Texas would always be the lead force behind a breakaway.

Texas will look to jump the first minute there's a significant $$$ advantage, they also eat up that "academic peers" bs.

Texas aTm seems like a very odd fit for the Big.

But Texas aTm seems like an odd fit in any conference.
 

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The only ones that can force this is the companies paying the millions to the conferences and schools.

If they want it, they can force the issue.

Will they? Who knows. But I doubt people thought things would look this way 25 years ago, and I doubt any of us have any real idea what they are going to look like 25 years from now.
Yeah but ESPN/FOX need the SEC/B1G just as much as the SEC/B1G need ESPN/FOX. I'd think they know the best way for them to move forward is playing nice with the conferences and brands they depend on.
 
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Yeah but ESPN/FOX need the SEC/B1G just as much as the SEC/B1G need ESPN/FOX. I'd think they know the best way for them to move forward is playing nice with the conferences and brands they depend on.
Many people believe that the SEC/ B10 doesn't want to break away and form the true "super league". I disagree, but If that's true, the only remaining bargaining chip we have is for every FBS team NOT in the SEC / B10 to threaten a break away and form our own league. Take the viewership and eyeballs away from SEC / B10, and force them to form a pro league competing with the NFL (they will lose).

Its not great and very risky, but its all we have or we can watch our slow death / defacto relegation over the next 7 years.
 

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At what time does relegation happen within the Big 10 and SEC once the money starts to level off.
 

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Many people believe that the SEC/ B10 doesn't want to break away and form the true "super league". I disagree, but If that's true, the only remaining bargaining chip we have is for every FBS team NOT in the SEC / B10 to threaten a break away and form our own league. Take the viewership and eyeballs away from SEC / B10, and force them to form a pro league competing with the NFL (they will lose).

Its not great and very risky, but its all we have or we can watch our slow death / defacto relegation over the next 7 years.
This is confusing. You do or don’t want them to break away?
 

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AtM is just odd in general.
I would add odd and and delusional. For how much money they pump into their players and facilities, their ROI is horrible.
since 2000 they have had two good (by their standards) seasons. and that was the first year in the SEC and Covid.
in those 24 seasons they have been ranked at the beginning in almost ALL of those seasons, but only AP ranked at the end of the season 5 times since 2000. thats crazy.

the rest have been seasons from 4 wins to 9 wins.
With texas and OU now in the league they will further move down the pole.

maybe this is their year? lol
 

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I would add odd and and delusional. For how much money they pump into their players and facilities, their ROI is horrible.
since 2000 they have had two good (by their standards) seasons. and that was the first year in the SEC and Covid.
in those 24 seasons they have been ranked at the beginning in almost ALL of those seasons, but only AP ranked at the end of the season 5 times since 2000. thats crazy.

the rest have been seasons from 4 wins to 9 wins.
With texas and OU now in the league they will further move down the pole.

maybe this is their year? lol
A&M is super weird because they have never really been good but get a decent amount of attention soley for lighting money on fire. They haven’t won a natty in 85 years, they have one conference title in their last two conferences, they have a sub 500 bowl record.

Also it’s a weird school
 

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A&M is super weird because they have never really been good but get a decent amount of attention soley for lighting money on fire. They haven’t won a natty in 85 years, they have one conference title in their last two conferences, they have a sub 500 bowl record.

Also it’s a weird school

WAY too many class rings.

That goes against my "never trust a man who wears a class ring" rule of thumb.
 

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A&M is super weird because they have never really been good but get a decent amount of attention soley for lighting money on fire. They haven’t won a natty in 85 years, they have one conference title in their last two conferences, they have a sub 500 bowl record.

Also it’s a weird school

I have a coworker who had a son graduate from a HS in a socal suburb that regularly gets "best place to live", "safest place to live", "best schools" national awards and the kid left to go to school at Texas A&M and I was just fighting the cringe so hard. Growing up in a perfect ideal community and then to go across the country to the mason jar ejaculatory culture...
 
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I have a coworker who had a son graduate from a HS in a socal suburb that regularly gets "best place to live", "safest place to live", "best schools" national awards and the kid left to go to school at Texas A&M and I was just fighting the cringe so hard. Growing up in a perfect ideal community and then to go across the country to the mason jar ejaculatory culture...

You've described Irvine really well!
 
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You've described Irvine really well!

This was Thousand Oaks. I instantly thought...that is a REALLY nice place to grow up and live to voluntarily move to the place where weirdos do those "yell chants" and jizz into jars as a group.

I actually think the yell leader thing may be more cringe than the mason jar thing because they're actually proud of the "yell leaders".
 
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SEC Academic Alliance? LMAO

To quote the Ohio State President in 2013:

"You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing."

No.

Try something like the BIG Academic Alliance…in essence the BTAA with additional members. Or just leave it the BTAA.

The biggest football brands are in general the biggest research institutions, and if many of them were to leave for a P1 in football, their membership in the BTAA wouldn’t be at risk. It’s far more likely the BTAA remains and adds UT, A&M, Vandy etc than those left in the BIG shoot themselves in the foot and kick out Michigan, Wisconsin, PSU etc
 

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WAY too many class rings.

That goes against my "never trust a man who wears a class ring" rule of thumb.
I had an acquaintance show me their class ring. I didn’t understand for several minutes, and then I still don’t understand…
 

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Many people believe that the SEC/ B10 doesn't want to break away and form the true "super league". I disagree, but If that's true, the only remaining bargaining chip we have is for every FBS team NOT in the SEC / B10 to threaten a break away and form our own league. Take the viewership and eyeballs away from SEC / B10, and force them to form a pro league competing with the NFL (they will lose).

Its not great and very risky, but its all we have or we can watch our slow death / defacto relegation over the next 7 years.
You can't threaten ESPN/Fox with a good time. They'd LOVE that.
 

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Many people believe that the SEC/ B10 doesn't want to break away and form the true "super league". I disagree, but If that's true, the only remaining bargaining chip we have is for every FBS team NOT in the SEC / B10 to threaten a break away and form our own league. Take the viewership and eyeballs away from SEC / B10, and force them to form a pro league competing with the NFL (they will lose).

Its not great and very risky, but its all we have or we can watch our slow death / defacto relegation over the next 7 years.
Self Relegation. Bold Strategy.
 
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Yeah, ESPN/Fox currently control CFB.

And that needs to be flipped where FBS Presidents/ADs tell ESPN/Fox you will bid on conference/CFP inventory in the format we want, not what you want and other networks (namely Apple and Amazon) will be fairly engaged as well.

CFB is the only sport where networks overly control it to their benefit.
The problem is, as has been talked about here, there is no central manager that controls this, like in the Pro leagues. NFL, NBA etc. They have a commissioner and central management office that controls rules, scheduling, contracts etc.

In College sports you have multiple conferences and schools that all manage all of this themselves. Even the supposed governing body in the NCAA is mostly been gutted as to anything and really only can manages the rules of games at this point. They control nothing else.

So what happens is the Media companies pit conferences against each other. They offer 1 more than another, to get what they want, then offer another conference more if they do what the others did etc. They push schools to schedule who and when they want. They control everything because they control the money.
Hey SEC we will give you this much $, Hey Big12 you want as much, you have to add another conference game, you need to add games mid week, etc. Then the next contract, Hey SEC and B1G you want to continue to be out in front, you need to add these teams and games on Fridays. And repeat. Thats how they do it.

With the NFL, it almost works in opposite. The NFL tells the media members this is our product and this is what we want, and if Fox doesnt want to pay that, they take it to NBC or CBS etc. They all get a piece of the pie as but it is controlled by who wants to pay the most as to who gets the most access to their content. And you are not going to see one team or one conference or division being pitted against another, for more money etc. 1 commissioner manages the entire system, and it takes all that out of it.
 

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The problem is, as has been talked about here, there is no central manager that controls this, like in the Pro leagues. NFL, NBA etc. They have a commissioner and central management office that controls rules, scheduling, contracts etc.

In College sports you have multiple conferences and schools that all manage all of this themselves. Even the supposed governing body in the NCAA is mostly been gutted as to anything and really only can manages the rules of games at this point. They control nothing else.

So what happens is the Media companies pit conferences against each other. They offer 1 more than another, to get what they want, then offer another conference more if they do what the others did etc. They push schools to schedule who and when they want. They control everything because they control the money.
Hey SEC we will give you this much $, Hey Big12 you want as much, you have to add another conference game, you need to add games mid week, etc. Then the next contract, Hey SEC and B1G you want to continue to be out in front, you need to add these teams and games on Fridays. And repeat. Thats how they do it.

With the NFL, it almost works in opposite. The NFL tells the media members this is our product and this is what we want, and if Fox doesnt want to pay that, they take it to NBC or CBS etc. They all get a piece of the pie as but it is controlled by who wants to pay the most as to who gets the most access to their content. And you are not going to see one team or one conference or division being pitted against another, for more money etc. 1 commissioner manages the entire system, and it takes all that out of it.
Preaching to the choir here.

Goal of the CST is to have a centralized governing body outside of the NCAA that would administer/negotiate TV deals NFL-style. Obviously easier said than done but there is now an obvious realization amongst FBS administrators that the current TV model is forgoing millions of dollars of unrealized revenue and there is a path desired by ESPN and Fox of additional destructive relegation to their benefit with Sankey and Petitti as their puppets.

The millions of dollars left on the table with the recent CFP extension awarded to ESPN as the sole bidder for far below market value was a effin fiasco. That below market contract, in turn, caused the SEC and B10 to trigger a CFP revenue sharing plan to their favor that is not merit based and grossly unfair.

Will probably take Fed intervention to make a CST or similar model to come to fruition with the probable breaking point being attempted destruction/relegation of the ACC. As JP pointed, PAC destruction and relegation of Oregon St and Washington St wasn't enough to move the needle for intervention but it did trigger the formation of the CST which is a step in the right direction to fix the sport.
 

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Preaching to the choir here.

Goal of the CST is to have a centralized governing body outside of the NCAA that would administer/negotiate TV deals NFL-style. Obviously easier said than done but there is now an obvious realization amongst FBS administrators that the current TV model is forgoing millions of dollars of unrealized revenue and there is a path desired by ESPN and Fox of additional destructive relegation to their benefit with Sankey and Petitti as their puppets.

The millions of dollars left on the table with the recent CFP extension awarded to ESPN as the sole bidder for far below market value was a effin fiasco. That below market contract, in turn, caused the SEC and B10 to trigger a CFP revenue sharing plan to their favor that is not merit based and grossly unfair.

Will probably take Fed intervention to make a CST or similar model to come to fruition with the probable breaking point being attempted destruction/relegation of the ACC. As JP pointed, PAC destruction and relegation of Oregon St and Washington St wasn't enough to move the needle for intervention but it did trigger the formation of the CST which is a step in the right direction to fix the sport.
You realize the ESPN playoff deal you keep ranting about expires in 2026 when many other networks are expected to enter into a bidding war. Doesn’t make much sense to put it out for a short deal epically when everyone has been happy with ESPN having the playoffs.