Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[2speedy1]

I meant that people not on this board don’t count 2020, I am very aware of how much this board values that season and I would to in your shoes.

Fair.

Although I think you might be thinking of those in B1G country, or at least are biased to believe most of the country dont count that year, because they dont in B1G country because of how horribly they managed that year.

I believe most of the B12 and SEC count that year as it was basically a full schedule for those, and everyone had to manage the same issues.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Here's one thing we can agree on, 2020 doesn't count. Stupid silly season from which no conclusions should be drawn.

So you think the Sweeny De Armas thing is possible? god damn man you flatter me

 

[2speedy1]

Here's one thing we can agree on, 2020 doesn't count. Stupid silly season from which no conclusions should be drawn.

So you dont count our Fiesta Bowl? I think you should have your fan card revoked.

 

[Big_Sill]

So you dont count our Fiesta Bowl? I think you should have your fan card revoked.

I don't count it as a notch on our "accomplishment belt". It was fun to watch and I enjoyed every minute of the Fiesta Bowl and B12 champ game (even though it didn't work out).

Its unfortunate, because that was a great team that may have had that much success in a regular season (who really knows). Covid created some wacky results and season outcomes.

 

[ClubCy]

Did OSU require special treatment, that no one else got? Regardless. Did Nebby get that treatment? Did Iowa? Were all schools dealing with the same things? Or just OSU?

I would not say "Most" on this board dont count 2020. I believe the majority here count our NY6 win that year. But there are some out there that believe our accomplishments that year mean more because we managed the issues that year better than others. Its not like everyone in the country didnt have the same challenges, so those that managed them better than others came out on top, except OSU that got special treatment and rules changed to benefit only them.

If this is true, than the people who believe it means more are extremely naive or need to get their heads out of the sand. I will try to leave it at that.

 

[ClubCy]

Fair.

Although I think you might be thinking of those in B1G country, or at least are biased to believe most of the country dont count that year, because they dont in B1G country because of how horribly they managed that year.

I believe most of the B12 and SEC count that year as it was basically a full schedule for those, and everyone had to manage the same issues.

I can assure you they did not.

 

[HFCS]

I don't count it as a notch on our "accomplishment belt". It was fun to watch and I enjoyed every minute of the Fiesta Bowl and B12 champ game (even though it didn't work out).

Its unfortunate, because that was a great team that may have had that much success in a regular season (who really knows). Covid created some wacky results and season outcomes.

It's not some coincidence we had one of our best teams in a year we had by far our best ever players.

Underperforming in 2021 is probably more of a fluke than 9-3 or 10-3 in 2020.

We went decades with practically no NFL players then that team suddenly had NFL superstar running back and quarterback, then past few weeks a defensive end who is an NFL sack machine. Not even mentioning the guys who are NFL role players.

 

[2speedy1]

I can assure you they did not.

Everyone had the same issues. Covid was everywhere. Each location, conference, and school handled it differently.

The underlying issues and causes were the same.

Are you saying ISU did not have to deal with covid outbreaks, just the same as everyone did? Are you saying OSU didnt cancel games even though they had enough players available per the preseason rules and agreements? Are you saying the B1G didnt change their rules to qualify for their championship to make OSU qualify?

Do you agree that our loss against ULM that year counted, just as our win against KSU? Even though both were affected by covid issues?

covid was the issue, everyone had it, and had to manage it. How those different places and conferences managed it what was different.

 

[ClubCy]

Everyone had the same issues. Covid was everywhere. Each location, conference, and school handled it differently.

The underlying issues and causes were the same.

Are you saying ISU did not have to deal with covid outbreaks, just the same as everyone did? Are you saying OSU didnt cancel games even though they had enough players available per the preseason rules and agreements? Are you saying the B1G didnt change their rules to qualify for their championship to make OSU qualify?

Do you agree that our loss against ULM that year counted, just as our win against KSU? Even though both were affected by covid issues?

covid was the issue, everyone had it, and had to manage it. How those different places and conferences managed it what was different.

Do you think it was a coincidence that we had handfuls of players test positive in summer workouts and then a major outbreak in the weeks leading up to the first game but then had barely any (if any at all iirc) positive tests for the remainder of the season? Despite having to play in front of zero fans multiple times because of bad outbreaks in the state of Iowa. I’ll let you connect the dots.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Did OSU require special treatment, that no one else got? Regardless. Did Nebby get that treatment? Did Iowa? Were all schools dealing with the same things? Or just OSU?

I would not say "Most" on this board dont count 2020. I believe the majority here count our NY6 win that year. But there are some out there that believe our accomplishments that year mean more because we managed the issues that year better than others. Its not like everyone in the country didnt have the same challenges, so those that managed them better than others came out on top, except OSU that got special treatment and rules changed to benefit only them.

Right on. 2020 absolutely counts!

If a program or conference approached it like a train wreck, that is on them.
ISU and the Big Xii took it head on and succeeded. So did the SEC and the ACC,

FWIW, Only the B1G and Pac-12 bitched up.

Iowa State's 2020 season was AWESOME. 9-3 without playing two additional OOC games (Iowa and a cupcake). Could have EASILY been a 10-win season. That team was incredible with plenty of NFL talent still in the league.

So was National Champion Alabama's (13-0) which played a 10 game SEC Regular Season (missed the two worst teams that year: South Carolina and Vanderbilt) + SEC Championship game vs. Florida + Bowl win over Notre Dame (which played a full ACC season) and Ohio State in the National Championship Game.

Anybody who thinks Iowa State's 2020 season doesn't count for any reason can suck an egg.

Let's Go State!

 

[CysRage]

I didn’t see this posted yet but UNLV went from confirming to stay in MWC, exploring options, reconfirming to the MWC with Air Force. This is a massive blow to the Pac 12 who was already on plan B when the AAC schools balked. Not only are they not getting UNLV or Air Force, but because the MWC is not dissolving, they will get massive buy out money for luring away teams who they had a scheduling agreement with this year.

 

[ZorkClone]

I didn’t see this posted yet but UNLV went from confirming to stay in MWC, exploring options, reconfirming to the MWC with Air Force. This is a massive blow to the Pac 12 who was already on plan B when the AAC schools balked. Not only are they not getting UNLV or Air Force, but because the MWC is not dissolving, they will get massive buy out money for luring away teams who they had a scheduling agreement with this year.

Doesn't this leave both the PAC and the MW with 7 teams? I fully expected UNLV to jump ship.

edit: Reading the rules it appears you need to have 8 teams to be recognized as an FBS conference, so we may be getting some C-USA or Sun belt poaching.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I didn’t see this posted yet but UNLV went from confirming to stay in MWC, exploring options, reconfirming to the MWC with Air Force. This is a massive blow to the Pac 12 who was already on plan B when the AAC schools balked. Not only are they not getting UNLV or Air Force, but because the MWC is not dissolving, they will get massive buy out money for luring away teams who they had a scheduling agreement with this year.

At this point now, the PAC should try for a full merger between the two. I understand swinging for the top AAC teams. But once they couldn’t get them, and now losing AFA and UNLV, the PAC’s best option is a full merge to save on the exit fees and poaching penalties.

 

[Bestaluckcy]

If the MW allowed one PAC to be team to rejoin without penalty things could get dicey for the new PAC

 

[Die4Cy]

I don't count it as a notch on our "accomplishment belt". It was fun to watch and I enjoyed every minute of the Fiesta Bowl and B12 champ game (even though it didn't work out).

Its unfortunate, because that was a great team that may have had that much success in a regular season (who really knows). Covid created some wacky results and season outcomes.

Still get irritated that Iowa State earns their way to the Fiesta Bowl in a season where their fans aren't allowed to attend.

 

[cyclones500]

Pac-12 should take New Mexico. Or at least consider it.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

If the MW allowed one PAC to be team to rejoin without penalty things could get dicey for the new PAC

Utah State still has a chance to change their minds 3 or 4 times before anything is official...

 

[Scruff]

At this point now, the PAC should try for a full merger between the two. I understand swinging for the top AAC teams. But once they couldn’t get them, and now losing AFA and UNLV, the PAC’s best option is a full merge to save on the exit fees and poaching penalties.

Memphis AD talks about the decision not to join them, basically says the money offer wasn't enough to merit shipping the volleyball team all over the country via charter flights. Begs the question, if they're going to invite Utah State, why didn't they invite minimum 6 AAC schools so that it reduced the travel for all of them. Are Tulsa, UAB, or ECU worse adds than Utah State?

 

[theshadow]

CFB keeps making it worse all the time. I have a feeling the new 2 min timeout was pushed by the media companies too, to give them another commercial break.

As much as I loathe the quantity and length of media timeouts, the 2-minute one isn't an additional break. It's just a guarantee that Break #4 in the 2nd/4th quarters will come at that time.

It's more like basketball, where you know you're getting breaks at certain times.

 

[cyclones500]

Memphis AD talks about the decision not to join them, basically says the money offer wasn't enough to merit shipping the volleyball team all over the country via charter flights. Begs the question, if they're going to invite Utah State, why didn't they invite minimum 6 AAC schools so that it reduced the travel for all of them. Are Tulsa, UAB, or ECU worse adds than Utah State?

I'm no expert, but I would think USU is a better add than UAB and ECU, probably better than Tulsa (and without taking into account geography). If you could get South Florida and Tulane, Memphis might not balk as much regarding travel. Having Tulsa might be a good bridge, though (closer to memphis than USF is)