Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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But in a super conference, the general public will have far more interest in all the games within that conference than if they played in a mediocre conference

Tell me… would you rather watch Texas vs Kansas or Texas vs USC?
I think the general public has far more interest in a mediocre Texas playing in the Big 12 than a mediocre Texas playing in a superconference. That's the point. In the Big 12, even if Texas is losing, one of the lead stories will always be "Is this the season Texas turns it around and gets back atop the Big 12?" In a superconference, the general public will have far more interest in winning programs named Bama, Georgia, tOSU, LSU than in a perennial bottomdwellar named Texas.

I'd rather watch Texas v. USC. But if they're .500 programs in a superconference, I'm not nearly as interested as I am in the conference's other bluebloods that are actually winning.
 

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And if a super conference forms, the casual fan will prioritize watching games from that conference. Same concept
Yes the casual fan will. But you will lose a lot of fans who watch that are fans because of a certain school. If the media only cares about the casual fan, then they are forgetting about a huge percentage of fans.
 
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Yes. They are obsessed with football. If you didn’t know, the general population of texas has an obsession with football.

Fans of Texas will continue to be obsessed with football even if Texas continues to be mediocre. Nebraska is still selling out every home game. Their fans are obsessed with Nebraska football. Difference is that obsession is very regional; the population of Nebraska is quite small, so they don’t have the casual fan draw. Texas, on the other hand, has a huge population and draws even casual fans regardless of their record. Just like the Dallas cowboys.
Ummm that’s legit what I said….
 

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Yes the casual fan will. But you will lose a lot of fans who watch that are fans because of a certain school. If the media only cares about the casual fan, then they are forgetting about a huge percentage of fans.
How many “casual” college football fans are there I wonder? I don’t know of anyone who is just a cfb fan in general, usually they like a specific program and then by proxy a conference.
 
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I think the general public has far more interest in a mediocre Texas playing in the Big 12 than a mediocre Texas playing in a superconference. That's the point. In the Big 12, even if Texas is losing, one of the lead stories will always be "Is this the season Texas turns it around and gets back atop the Big 12?" In a superconference, the general public will have far more interest in winning programs named Bama, Georgia, tOSU, LSU than in a perennial bottomdwellar named Texas.

I'd rather watch Texas v. USC. But if they're .500 programs in a superconference, I'm not nearly as interested as I am in the conference's other bluebloods that are actually winning.
So you are saying you’d rather watch the same Texas team play Kansas than USC? Simply because Texas would have a better record?

Let me ask you this: would you rather watch the Chicago Cubs play St Louis Cardinals than the same Chicago Cubs play the Saint Paul Saints? The cubs obviously would have a better record playing against AAA teams
 

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It just means more in the SEC... This is an absolute joke. How lucky Vanderbilt is to be able to not have to worry about being relegated and can continue to not care about their athletics (outside of baseball of course).

Seems like the SEC that Paul Finebaum talks about.....
 

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So you are saying you’d rather watch the same Texas team play Kansas than USC? Simply because Texas would have a better record?

Let me ask you this: would you rather watch the Chicago Cubs play St Louis Cardinals than the same Chicago Cubs play the Saint Paul Saints? The cubs obviously would have a better record playing against AAA teams
No I'd rather watch Texas play USC, as I said in my previous post, mainly because USC is another blueblood and I'm way more interested in them than I am in Kansas.
 
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Where in the world are you getting this number from? Im sorry but im calling BS without a link
Look at any prime time game. You think the majority of those fans are fans of each program?

The smaller games will be viewed by local fans (games on ESPN+, for example) Games on the big noon kickoff, 2:30 CBS/ABC, prime time 7:00 games will draw the casual fan. And since those games have by far the highest viewership, viewership of casual fans would outweigh those of fans of the programs.

I mean I bet you watch just about most prime time football games, even if it’s not involving your teams, right?
 
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No I'd rather watch Texas play USC, as I said in my previous post, mainly because USC is another blueblood and I'm way more interested in them than I am in Kansas.
Thanks for proving my point. Which is exactly why a super conference may form. People want to watch those games, regardless of records.
 

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Because they were in the Big 12. If you think Texas' value will thrive as a sub-.500 program in a conference alongside Bama, Georgia, tOSU, Michigan, LSU, USC, ND, PSU, etc., I think you're kidding yourself.
you might want to look up the size of UT, state of Texas, and viewership for any of their football games.

you are WAY off on this man.

why don't SEC programs all fall apart? i mean they have to go against GA LSU BAMA every year right? How in the world does Ole Miss or Auburn survive?

millions of fans aren't going to stop watching their team simply cause competition is hard.
 
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Some interesting stuff here. And I wonder if some of these in-state rivalries will continue (UW/WSU, OU/OSU)?

Commentary from WSU perspective

WSU averaged 1.59 million viewers per game from 2015–19 and 2021. That is more than Colorado, Utah, Arizona State and Arizona, according to The Athletic.

The Cougs get viewers. People like watching WSU football. It is no secret. Yet still, it is as if the Cougs are in the bottom of the Conference in viewership and getting left behind was a foregone conclusion.

Broadening the scope, WSU viewership ranked 8th among all ACC/B10/P12 schools from 2012–21, and they have made seven straight bowl games and made a bowl game in eight of the past nine eligible seasons.

Then there is Stanford, a prestigious and dominant school beyond football. Ignoring academics, the Cardinal are so good in so many sports that any Conference should be begging to get them to join.

Stanford has 134 NCAA Championships and 296 Olympic medals, while Oregon only has 34 and 32, respectively. Washington only has 11 and 81, respectively. But their football team is bigger, so it all makes sense.
 

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Look at any prime time game. You think the majority of those fans are fans of each program?

The smaller games will be viewed by local fans (games on ESPN+, for example) Games on the big no on kickoff, 2:30 CBS/ABC, prime time 7:00 games will draw the casual fan. And since those games have by far the highest viewership, viewership of casual fans would outweigh those of fans of the programs.

I mean I bet you watch just about most prime time football games, even if it’s not invoking your teams, right?
Ahhh, think we have different definitions of the term casual fan. Totally agree with what you’re saying just have a very different idea of casual
 

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So you are saying you’d rather watch the same Texas team play Kansas than USC? Simply because Texas would have a better record?

Let me ask you this: would you rather watch the Chicago Cubs play St Louis Cardinals than the same Chicago Cubs play the Saint Paul Saints? The cubs obviously would have a better record playing against AAA teams
That is a stupid comparison.
 

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Thanks for proving my point. Which is exactly why a super conference may form. People want to watch those games, regardless of records.
Lol, no. The point was that Texas' brand would not thrive as a mediocre program in a superconference while it would (and did) thrive as a mediocre program in the Big 12. Me preferring to watch USC over Kansas has nothing to do with that. Nice effort though.
 

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Lol, no. The point was that Texas' brand would not thrive as a mediocre program in a superconference while it would (and did) thrive as a mediocre program in the Big 12. Me preferring to watch USC over Kansas has nothing to do with that. Nice effort though.
And the Cardinals brand would be better by playing AAA teams vs pro teams?