Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[simply1]

Ah gotcha. Will have to do when time allows

Sorry didn’t mean to sound like a ****, this post was the interesting thing I think

A league’s data partner typically manages and distributes official statistics to media and fan sites. It remains to be seen if this Big 12 deal also will include the rights to sell data to sports betting services, but they are believed to be part of these negotiations. Those rights could drive up the financial value of the deal significantly. So far, only two conferences have struck data partnerships -- the Mid-American with Genius Sports and the Pac-12 with Tempus Ex Machina. Those arrangements did not include the ability to sell stats to sports betting services at the time.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Basically you’re directly creating a financial relationship between the conference and the gambling entities, there’s no more middleman there theoretically. You now have a reason for direct communications, relationships, etc. you also create an incentive for the conference to promote gaming, and the demand for those statistics.

That’s already happening though. For example Sparty has a partnership with ceasers sports book. In states where it is legal many teams already have ties to sports betting.

 

[CoKane]

Sorry didn’t mean to sound like a ****, this post was the interesting thing I think

No big deal, I didn't even see there was an article so it helped either way

 

[simply1]

That’s already happening though. For example Sparty has a partnership with ceasers sports book. In states where it is legal many teams already have ties to sports betting.

Really? What sort of deal? I don’t live in Iowa, but gambling is legal there and I’m not aware of a partnership between Iowa State and and sports books. Maybe I’m just out of the loop.

 

[heitclone]

I'm definitely pro-gambling as it drives engagement and can provide another revenue stream to help our athletes. But I will say that it's annoying watching the XFL and hearing the announcers talk about the spread on every damn drive, almost as if there isn't an actual football game being played.

As long as selling the Big 12's data rights doesn't impact the way the game is covered (which I don't see why it would), then I don't see any harm in making money off of data that we're presumably already collecting anyway.

The XFL NEEDS gambling though, its a new league, with no traditions or fanbases. Gambling, more specifically live betting is the biggest reason it exists, its part of the niche the league is trying to fill.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Really? What sort of deal? I don’t live in Iowa, but gambling is legal there and I’m not aware of a partnership between Iowa State and and sports books. Maybe I’m just out of the loop.

Caesars Sportsbook Named Official Sports Betting & iGaming Partner of Michigan State Athletics - Michigan State University Athletics

Michigan State University (MSU) Athletics, MSU Sports Properties and Caesars Entertainment Inc. (NASDAQ: CZR) today announced a multi-year partnership to mak...

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Maryland and some other big ten schools have similar deals

 

[SCNCY]

Caesars Sportsbook Named Official Sports Betting & iGaming Partner of Michigan State Athletics - Michigan State University Athletics

Michigan State University (MSU) Athletics, MSU Sports Properties and Caesars Entertainment Inc. (NASDAQ: CZR) today announced a multi-year partnership to mak...

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Maryland and some other big ten schools have similar deals

So I don’t do sports betting, but what does a sports venue/team have to benefit by partnering with a sports book?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

So I don’t do sports betting, but what does a sports venue/team have to benefit by partnering with a sports book?

It’s like any sponsorship deal, you get money and they get exposure. Personally I’m not the biggest fan of the sponsorship but I also do a lot of sports betting so I understand it.

 

[SCNCY]

It’s like any sponsorship deal, you get money and they get exposure. Personally I’m not the biggest fan of the sponsorship but I also do a lot of sports betting so I understand it.

I guess I’m a little confused, because couldn’t any sports book make lines any any game anyways? Or is it just like a corporate sponsor deal?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I guess I’m a little confused, because couldn’t any sports book make lines any any game anyways? Or is it just like a corporate sponsor deal?

It’s not for making lines it’s for a campus presence and marketing tool. There are special ceasers seats, giveaways, promotions to get people on the app. So similar to a corporate deal just slightly more insidious

 

[simply1]

Caesars Sportsbook Named Official Sports Betting & iGaming Partner of Michigan State Athletics - Michigan State University Athletics

Michigan State University (MSU) Athletics, MSU Sports Properties and Caesars Entertainment Inc. (NASDAQ: CZR) today announced a multi-year partnership to mak...

msuspartans.com

Maryland and some other big ten schools have similar deals

It’s okay

Caesars Sportsbook will provide annual funds to support student-athlete responsible gaming education, student scholarships, as well as internship and professional development opportunities for MSU students pursuing a career in the sports industry.

I have to say I don’t like this at all. Oh well.

 

[alarson]

That’s already happening though. For example Sparty has a partnership with ceasers sports book. In states where it is legal many teams already have ties to sports betting.

And i'll be honest, I hate it. Its become way too pervasive, and certainly doesn't make anyone feel good about some of the questionable officiating that happens in some games either.

The constant barrage of gambling advertising is a problem too. There's a good case to be made it should be banned the same way cigarette ads are, and many places are starting to look at these bans

 

[BMWallace]

Out of curiosity, why? It’s already completely baked into sports culture.

The actual gambling is here to stay and I really don't have an issue with that. I personally have an issue with how persistent the advertising and marketing of sports betting has become, and how it belies the risks inherent in gambling as an activity. It has grown insanely integral to the revenue growth of the major sports and the sports media ecosystems that surround these sports, to the point where anyone who works in these ecosystems . The constant messages of "Play now! Bet now! You can win big! Look how fun this is!!!" hides the problematic and toxic patterns that gambling can lead to. There is never enough recognition that gambling is an inherently risky activity.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The actual gambling is here to stay and I really don't have an issue with that. I personally have an issue with how persistent the advertising and marketing of sports betting has become, and how it belies the risks inherent in gambling as an activity. It has grown insanely integral to the revenue growth of the major sports and the sports media ecosystems that surround these sports, to the point where anyone who works in these ecosystems . The constant messages of "Play now! Bet now! You can win big! Look how fun this is!!!" hides the problematic and toxic patterns that gambling can lead to. There is never enough recognition that gambling is an inherently risky activity.

Yep I don’t disagree with any of that. I imagine the counter advertising will come out soon enough like it did with smoking or drinking and driving

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The B12 didn't "kill" it. They solidified their existence for another 5 years. KU/OSU gone next if they can figure a way. The rest will be the basis going forward as little sisters of the poor. P12 trying the same. B/P12 will be AAA for the P2 waiting to be called up.

Unless the B10 and SEC set up this super conference deal, then the B12 will be fine. The money that the B10 and SEC is getting will stop being important for football and basketball, there is a limit on how much you can improve the facilities then it becomes overkill.
Now if either conference uses their new found money to use in NIL or increase the number of scholarships that they are given out, then that changes everything. Until either happens, and as long as there is a path to the playoffs for B12 schools, I see very few getting an invite to either the SEC or B10.

 

[DSM4Cy]

The actual gambling is here to stay and I really don't have an issue with that. I personally have an issue with how persistent the advertising and marketing of sports betting has become, and how it belies the risks inherent in gambling as an activity. It has grown insanely integral to the revenue growth of the major sports and the sports media ecosystems that surround these sports, to the point where anyone who works in these ecosystems . The constant messages of "Play now! Bet now! You can win big! Look how fun this is!!!" hides the problematic and toxic patterns that gambling can lead to. There is never enough recognition that gambling is an inherently risky activity.

Yep, 100%. I absolutely hate how pervasive the advertising has become. It’s also so ingrained now in all sports coverage, and it just makes me angry every time I hear some reference to it. To me, it cheapens the game and just furthers how it’s all about money, not about competition. I’m aware that I’m certainly in the minority, but I am watching much less sports coverage outside of games (pre-game shows, SportsCenter, etc.) because of how much betting talk is happening. As someone with zero interest in ever gambling, it doesn’t affect me in terms of influencing me to do it, but I can see how easily it pulls others in. People should be entitled to do what they want, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it. Get off my lawn!

 

[exCyDing]

Unless the B10 and SEC set up this super conference deal, then the B12 will be fine. The money that the B10 and SEC is getting will stop being important for football and basketball, there is a limit on how much you can improve the facilities then it becomes overkill.
Now if either conference uses their new found money to use in NIL or increase the number of scholarships that they are given out, then that changes everything. Until either happens, and as long as there is a path to the playoffs for B12 schools, I see very few getting an invite to either the SEC or B10.

I'd be shocked if we don't see B10 and SEC schools start to deflect donors away from the athletic dept and towards NIL collectives that are entirely separate and independent of the schools but just coincidentally work together in perfect synchrony. The athletic departments will have more funds than they know what to do with from the media deals to fund their operations. Anything in excess can go to the NILs.

I really don't see schools challenging to pay players directly, it opens a whole can of worms that I'm sure they'd rather not get into. NIL collectives let them have their cake and eat it too.

 

[simply1]

I'd be shocked if we don't see B10 and SEC schools start to deflect donors away from the athletic dept and towards NIL collectives that are entirely separate and independent of the schools but just coincidentally work together in perfect synchrony. The athletic departments will have more funds than they know what to do with from the media deals to fund their operations. Anything in excess can go to the NILs.

I really don't see schools challenging to pay players directly, it opens a whole can of worms that I'm sure they'd rather not get into. NIL collectives let them have their cake and eat it too.

Blum said that was happening already in the latest podcast.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Blum said that was happening already in the latest podcast.

That’s been happening for a year

 

[CyCrazy]

Stupid question coming, say the big donors all funnel money into the NIL can the Athletic Department dip into the Schools endowments to make up some difference? Or are endowments only for research and what not for education only?