Agreed. I don't see ESPN turning down additional inventory. If only to prevent it from going somewhere else.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Agreed. I don't see ESPN turning down additional inventory. If only to prevent it from going somewhere else.
This is the difference with the SEC and B10. They have a partnership with their “partners”. Big 12, ACC, Pac12 we are dogs at the water bowl they put out in front of their HQs.
I'm completely guessing, just like you.
I'd love to see the contract so I know exactly whats in it.Agreed. Link?
So the SEC is going to expand and give ESPN free inventory. LMAO.
We don't know the pro rata details becuase we don't know the contract. It is anyone's guess as to what might or might not happen.
Once again, anyone's guess without seeing the contract.
I'm completely guessing, just like you.
Agreed. Link?
So the SEC is going to expand and give ESPN free inventory. LMAO.
We don't know the pro rata details becuase we don't know the contract. It is anyone's guess as to what might or might not happen.
Once again, anyone's guess without seeing the contract.
It would be some sad sack conference lawyers that didn’t put in an expansion contingency clause.
It would be sad sack corporate lawyers if they didn’t put in clauses in case of conference retraction.
But what would ESPN rather have:
- An annual ACC investment of $250M plus cost of operations/production of ACCN. The ACC then splits this 14 ways.
- An investment in 4 ACC teams of $250M that join the SEC. Plus, the 14 ACC games currently on ABC each fall can now be used to televise SEC or Big12 games if the ACC dissolves. The ACC dissolving also opens up 16 ESPN/ESPN2 slots for more SEC or Big12 games.
Obviously for that plan to work, the Big10 & Big12 have to be able to add ACC teams and keep their current per school payouts. That's why ND would be a big catch for the Big10.
Thats fine believe what you want. The issue is you are so far into lala land guessing things that no one in their right mind would agree to.I'm completely guessing, just like you.
Agreed. Link?
So the SEC is going to expand and give ESPN free inventory. LMAO.
We don't know the pro rata details becuase we don't know the contract. It is anyone's guess as to what might or might not happen.
Once again, anyone's guess without seeing the contract.
The rest are going by actual contracts and how they work. In most everything.
I mean I can guess that Amazon is going to pick up any new adds to the Big 12 for $10 Billion dollars a year too. And then anyone that disagrees because that is just insane, I can tell them to bring links and receipts too. And say Im just as right for guessing that as anyone else, because they cant prove me wrong with links.
Dude you are so far off in space and your argument that others bring proof is just insane. You are the one that should be bringing links and receipts. Here I will give you a start. www.google.com There is your link, because none of what you are guessing is based in reality.
Also an added benefit of this scenario would probably be a relatively static environment for a decade. Possibly more. No one likes uncertainty.
Definiently one of the better argument points from you so far.
Speaking of actual contracts, still waiting on that link.
I've heard Amazon won't be a player this go around. Although that was on a recent Pac-12 podcast, so who knows how true that is. If they aren't too keen of the Pac-12 they likely won't care about the Big 12.
Whatever you feel you need to do is fine by me.
If it's this estimate it was done before we signed the new deal (and before the LA schools left). We beat that by a bit, and should be right about in line with the ACC projection. CBS/Dodd reported out payout would be around $47M under the new deal, which is line with the "close to $50M" Pollard said at the time. If you give the Big 12 the same bump for the 12-team playoff as the ACC and PAC (about $13M after their yearly increase is taken out) that would put us at $60M average from 2026-2031, which is what the ACC is at if you project them out another couple of years. Could go a few million either way. I'm not surprised the PAC is struggling to match us given they were only $1-2M ahead of that with the LA schools.
Tough to prove in court. Also, who would be bringing the suit if the ACC dissolves?
Huh. Not sure how exactly the Big 12's bylaws explain the ESPN and SEC relationship, but I'll give it a look.
tortious interference is long a skill of the networks.
Perhaps speedy means avoiding airing of such past dirty laundry is why ESPN will work to meet the wishes of those seeking to go to P2 while keeping leftovers whole, without damages (thanks to payment from P2 schools, Fox, and conference network growth)
Like the leftovers in the Big 12, schools tend to not go scorched earth against the single most powerful entity in sports if offered anything close to a fair deal.
Read the information dude. It quotes the actual contracts.Frank the tank? Why not post a link from Mhver3 while you are at it.
You laugh at frank the tank, but Mhver3 makes more sense than you on this stuff.
Hell you want links and I have given you 3 now, where are your receipts that any of what you say has any change in hell.
Frank the Tank is at the level of Mhver3. I want links to the contract, not some commentary.
LMAO
What statement did you want a receipt on? I already said without the actual contract that its all guess work. Which, btw, is the same thing you are doing.
Like i said looking at other contracts gives you an idea how these things are written. And many are written very similar, if not almost carbon copies. But I guess we could go with your purple unicorn scenarios that you can not produce a single relevant link or contract that would allow for or even dream up such things.
You just say oh those links dont make sense, those would be hard to prove in court.
No one would have a claim. Like BC would not have a claim if they are left out. Like the other members would not pull the voting rights of the members leaving immediately just like the b12 did for OuT.
Waiting for your links....
Under the ACC dissolution strategy he laid out, every ACC school would economically win out being in their new conference vs. the ACC. At least through 2036 when the GOR expires.
- The 6-8 ACC schools going to the Big10 or SEC stand to make $600M more between now and 2036. Plus you have Notre Dame likely going to Big10 if ACC dissolves.
- The ACC schools going to the Big12 could make more than they currently make in the ACC. Big12 schools will make and average of $31.7 and the ACC deal is below that.
- ACC schools that join a G5 conference will make less than their current ACC deal, but...
If all 14 ACC schools can be richer than the current ACC TV deal between now & 2036- why not do the deal? Basically, the same logic as the Pac12. Why delay the inevitable and in this case the schools not being invited to the Big10/SEC hold great cards.
