Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I would never come to the hospital and tell you how to do your job. Clearly you know the best way to clean the bathrooms, and I respect that.....
Right, and in some cases they have larger alumni bases and larger TV markets. it’s crazy, we took the four we had to just to survive and it’s paying off. Anyone else is dangerous at this point.
Do you really think Espn and Fox are going to "work together" in any shape or form when it comes to any of this? They are the definition of enemies in this. Same goes with The SEC and B1G.
They will both want the same schools, they will both want the same values. etc. No way they sit down together and take turns picking teams or some crazy thing like that.
That still takes years of litigation and negotiations to get to a settlement.
You keep repeating this like you think everyone just walks in and agrees on something and shakes hands and leaves happy.
It is obvious you have never had any kind of legal or contract disputes. As someone who has been through several of both, it is a long, LONG process, and usually you don't walk away happy, no matter what side you are one.
A mediator told me once, that his job was not to make everyone happy, it was to make everyone equally unhappy.
The rational ones you talk about are just good actors.
Those of us that live around these types every day, know that is all an act and their true colors come out when they aren't trying to put on their fake "I cheer for the Cyclones when we aren't playing" act.
I won't argue the legal / court case part of it, because I tend to agree that if it was fightable/winnable the OuT would be fighting it.
However, contracts CAN be amended if both parties agree. You don't have to go to court and win to have a settlement. If OuT offered the Big12 $500M per year in perpetuity (inflation adjusted too) in exchange for the GoR release, clearly the Big12 would agree to that.
Here's the way I look at it- if you had to bet $100 on the over/under on the ACC GoR lasting until 2036 (or whatever it is), where would you bet? I'm hammering the under...
While I don't like to overuse the dumb reaction as some do, I do wish we had an Eye Roll emoji.
They might. This isn't the cold war; ESPN doesn't need Fox to die. Both sides just want to make more money.
So BOTH sides want the prime content (teams) from the ACC. Better to get some than none, and if the only way to get it is to split it...
Also, I think there could easily be schools that are more valuable to one conference/network than the other, especially considering how the BTN revenue model is so influenced by cable market access. Georgia Tech e.g. is probably about worthless to the SEC, but would have some decent value to the B1G.
The agreement that ND signed to get into the ACC states that if they "ND" ever join a conference, it must be the ACC. So if ND decided it was in its best interest to join the B10, they would have to buy their way out of their ACC contract.
If all the schools have a landing spot then this might work. It would take cooperation from the Big10, SEC and Big 12, but if the Big10 and SEC each take 4 that will leave 6 schools on the outside. If the BIg12 could take all six remaining, particularly if the $$ for the now expanded Big12 are better than the existing ACC contract then the six remaining schools would have a difficult time showing damages even if they wanted to enforce the GOR.
I get it that this is likely a long shot, but it would get the B10 and SEC what they want, would get ESPN and FOX what they want and would further solidify the B12.
Just a thought
Are you saying a conference affiliation from a century ago doesn't automatically make you an elite college football program or brand?
To dissolve the GOR's, does it take 100% of schools to agree or is something like 10 of 14 schools?
I could see it being dissolved if there are new conferences for almost all schools and the Big12's new contract offers higher payouts than ACC's current deal with ESPN. ESPN might actually benefit financially as well.
The Big10 & SEC could make it worth the Big12 taking a few ACC questionable schools with a more lucrative guarantee regarding $ split or teams in CFB Playoff
The B1G and SEC are charging toward combining for 44 or more schools post-ACC breakup... maybe 32 of them make the break-away league. Maybe closer to 24, or even 16. And I bet that close to 40 of those fanbases are convinced they'll be in it.
The GORs themselves say that they can be amended only by unanimous agreement. That was from the story The Athletic did on the actual text of the GORs.
