Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Brand value Iowa 19. All the math I need to know. Also, what kind of math are you using? that is different then all the other numbers?
That is directly tied to conference pay. And Iowa still cant pay its bills, and had to cut several sports last year. So there is that.
You made my point. Glad you admit a 16 team superconfernce leaves the Hoks high and dry.
Glass half full: this opens a channel to discuss movement *from* the PAC with key XII institutions
I'm not sure I disagree with any part of your analysis, and yet if TV networks can pull the strings like they have for the B1G and SEC, they can surely do it with this now-forming second tier. We certainly appear to be in more control of our fate than remaining Pac schools, but lots of things used to seem solid right up until the moment when they weren't anymore.
I think it's a lie...but IF...Washington and Oregon don't bring enough value for Big Ten as today's leak said. It means only about three teams not in the SEC would bring them value.
Nothing of value but stealing from each other. By all accounts Washington and Oregon seem to be in the 20-25 range of value.
College Football Value Rankings
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Ranking 84 major college football programs by brand value
One month ago, I ranked 73 college football programs by the value they bring in conference realignment, using four metrics: Home…medium.com
Iowa is 18th in brand value. 6th or 7th in the B10. There’d be a long list of schools cut out before Iowa.
Brand value is not the same as the value brought to a conference by being members. Some of it ends up flowing through of course, but mostly it just matters for the individual school.
Iowa faces the same problem ISU does. It is a school in a small-population state (the next larger state is almost double the size) so it isn't going to drive many viewers relative to the other big players. The only smaller state in the big 10 is Nebraska, and while they have a far superior historical brand, if they don't start to turn things around they should probably be worried too, because if members start getting dumped it'll be from those small states first.
Why not? The Big 10 is in exactly the same position now as the Big 12 was in 1996.
It basically all comes down to FOX. Whatever they prefer will happen. If they want the Pac-10 to eat the Big 12 and screw WVU and Cincy, that will be what happens. If they want the Big 12 to do the eating and screw Wazzu and Oregon State, that will happen. If they want the B1G to come back for more, that will happen.
Lots of people are tremendously confident that the right answers are obvious and they aren’t
If the PAC 12 truly goes after B12 schools, those schools would have to pay the exit fee, correct? Whereas the P12 wouldn’t because of their GOR expiring? Exit fees are easier to stomach when you’re getting big10 sec money. Not as much when your TV deals are uncertain like the B12 and PAC 12.
I stopped paying much attention to realignment stuff years ago.
I stopped paying much attention to realignment stuff years ago.
Whenever the time comes to boot out the hangers-on, Iowa as a state will be even smaller relative to its competition, and Ferentz will be long gone. If Iowa strings together a couple of the wrong hires at the wrong time they will be out just like Illinois and Purdue and Maryland and a lot of schools.
Basketball is pretty much a non-factor in these valuations, in fact some are just valuing football only. Iowa's football attendance is still pretty good. In an era where attendance is slipping, Iowa and ISU have held on well. They are a pretty solid TV draw too. Interestingly in the Big 10 the last couple of years Wisconsin has pretty much moved up with PSU and Michigan in the tier below Ohio State. They are damn good on TV. Then there's a big gap. Then MSU, Iowa and Nebraska are solid. The rest are pretty hit and miss, mostly miss.
Getting left out of a league with 30 or more teams is not a concern for Iowa. They might struggle to compete consistently, but they aren't getting left out.
Which is why they would talk to big 12 teams because they are both valued higher than any Big 12 school
That Wall St Journ is WAY out of date. And the other article is speculative. They used opinions.College Football Value Rankings
Ranking 84 major college football programs by brand value
One month ago, I ranked 73 college football programs by the value they bring in conference realignment, using four metrics: Home…
Iowa is 18th in brand value. 6th or 7th in the B10. There’d be a long list of schools cut out before Iowa.
Again Revenue is directly tied to conference payouts. But if you want to strictly go by revenue generated by Football here is your link. This doesnt take all the other subjective stuff that that article used in a mashup. Like Social media, attendance etc.
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I used to live near UCLA campus (maybe 4 miles) and now I live not far from Rose bowl. There was a tiny bit of interest when they had their recent NCAA hoops run but almost no local football interest at all in the 8 years I've lived in those places. The amount of local biz driven by UCLA football gamedays has to be a sliver of an ISU game.
On a home game Saturday you will see a lot of USC fans out and about near their stadium and surrounding neighborhoods. The areas aren't as beautiful as around UCLA campus and around Rose Bowl, but you can tell it's a college football Saturday much more. I could see the gameday crowd/buzz/business benefit as similar to game day in Iowa City or Ames, just in the middle of a massive city instead of a college town.
Tickets to both are cheaper and easier to get than ISU tickets. I mean just for a general seat, maybe there are high roller suites I have no idea about. Tickets for MLB are pretty cheap and easy too in LA. The year the Cubs won the world series the NLDS tickets at Dodger Stadium were available for as little as $120 and you couldn't get into Wrigley for under $1500, same series.
CW sounding like it’s eat or be eaten and it’s not a guarantee that the Big 12 outlasts the Pac-12. Which is obvious to anyone actually paying attention.
