Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[jbhtexas]

The dude solidifies a GOAT coaching career and builds the CFB dynasty of all dynasties exploiting decades of SEC advantages in bag men and under-the-table pay to players, then when NIL and the portal come along evening out the playing field, he testifies how college football is now a race to the bottom.

Saban has always been a whiny little b*tch about things that take away his baked in advantages. Same way he cried about the early signing period when it was established, because he could no longer swoop in at the last minute and poach recruits.

Lol, f*ck him.

Well, yeah, Saban had bag men. But "SEC advantages"??? Are you trying to suggest that nobody in the Big Ten or other conferences used bag men?

But I don't think Saban is wrong. Paying college athletes millions of dollars above their actual economic value isn't sustainable.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

The dude solidifies a GOAT coaching career and builds the CFB dynasty of all dynasties exploiting decades of SEC advantages in bag men and under-the-table pay to players, then when NIL and the portal come along evening out the playing field, he testifies how college football is now a race to the bottom.

Saban has always been a whiny little b*tch about things that take away his baked in advantages. Same way he cried about the early signing period when it was established, because he could no longer swoop in at the last minute and poach recruits.

Lol, f*ck him.

I would vastly prefer the old bag man scenario to the disaster happening currently. That amount of money was at least manageable.

Saban is spot on.

 

[BadBoi]

I would vastly prefer the old bag man scenario to the disaster happening currently. That amount of money was at least manageable.

Saban is spot on.

Schools don't have to pay out millions to 19/20 year old kids. They don't have to set insane buyouts for coaches. The schools are in control and set the market. It's out of control but only because of their own doing.

 

[Kinch]

I really don't think the Big10 wants a breakaway to happen. They wouldn't be pushing a 24 team playoff if that were the case. The SEC does but it only works if the Big10 goes with them. I think you're letting your biases affect your judgement on the matter.

Nope. I am just reporting the facts. When a U.S. Senator of an SEC state who is shepherding a bill that affects SEC and makes an allegation against the Big 10 and SEC, we need to know the allegation. Certainly we are upset with what the P2 has already done to the school we love. But these are the facts. We can’t erase the damage that the SEC has done to our conference. Nor can we erase the serious allegations made by a U.S. Senator responsible for a bill that affects college athletics. The media has certainly sat up and took notice. Which is good.

 

[Kinch]

The dude solidifies a GOAT coaching career and builds the CFB dynasty of all dynasties exploiting decades of SEC advantages in bag men and under-the-table pay to players, then when NIL and the portal come along evening out the playing field, he testifies how college football is now a race to the bottom.

Saban has always been a whiny little b*tch about things that take away his baked in advantages. Same way he cried about the early signing period when it was established, because he could no longer swoop in at the last minute and poach recruits.

Lol, f*ck him.

Are you saying Jim Tressel didn’t have a bag man? That’s news to me.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

You still haven’t explained why you think the bill is a disaster. Now if it is due to the SEC and B10 restrictions and how it may imperil an absurd 3x24 and USF, you’re full of $hit.

And 7x10 with every P7 team scheduling at least one strategic P7 non con opponent with one or two G6 games isn’t going to devastate the G6 given current non con scheduling across the P4.

They oppose the plan because it hurts the leagues they support, it's really that simple.

The idea that by getting the best teams all together and forming a super league leaves out one huge fact, that it also leaves out about 50% of the football watching population that does not support those universities. How many people in the Midwest have Alabama vs LSU circled on their calendar as most watch football this fall? You don't unless you are a fan of those teams. ESPN tried this idea a few years ago with their Sunday night MLB package, thinking they would give us Red Sox- Yankees games every chance they got, and the rating dropped, not because its not good baseball, but most of the country does not give a damn about the Red Sox or the Yankees. College football could very well end up doing the same if they break off the best 30 teams, because there are a lot of college football fans are not going to switch allegiance to one of those teams after the team they support was left out.

 

[CyCrazy]

Well just rip the band aid off and let them go play in their own sandbox.

 

[FinalFourCy]

You say the bill is a disaster. I'm sure the bill has some issues, but a disaster???

The commissioner of the conference of your college team supports the bill, as do quite a wide variety of other people who work in college sports. Yormark has done a pretty darn good job of bringing financial stability to the Big 12 under very difficult conditions, which indicates to me that he understands the college sports financial landscape quite well. What are your credentials to make the claim that the bill is a disaster?

Now I know the the Big Ten and SEC have stated that they don't support the bill, and I understand that, because they are the 2 of the 3 conferences that have set out over the past two decades to create college sports empires on the backs of the majority of the other D1 teams, and their empires (built without concern for what happens to anybody else) stand to lose a little bit if the bill passes. (The third conference involved in empire building already got its comeuppance because Larry Scott wasn't as savvy as the other kingmakers). Kings don't like to see their kingdoms reduced, so I don't expect the SEC and Big Ten to act in the best interest of college sports.

So, why should I believe you over Yormark?

It’s a disaster because of its unlikelihood of passing. In part because it tries to do too many things, and on several not do them well

Of course the Big 12 supports the bill. It’s the only bill on this. I support the bill.

That’s FAR from meaning it’s actually well crafted, and more importantly has a good chance of passing

Just how awful would this bill need to be before it was untouchable for Big 12?

 

[1SEIACLONE]

It’s a disaster because of its unlikelihood of passing. In part because it tries to do too many things, and on several not do them well

Of course the Big 12 supports the bill. It’s the only bill on this. I support the bill.

That’s FAR from meaning it’s actually well crafted, and more importantly has a good chance of passing

Just how awful would this bill need to be before it was untouchable for Big 12?

Let me ask, what type of bill or changes would you support? Because the way we are doing business right now is not working for most of the programs and universities. Changes are coming, what those changes are, no one knows, but something has to be done.

 

[BadBoi]

Nope. I am just reporting the facts. When a U.S. Senator of an SEC state who is shepherding a bill that affects SEC and makes an allegation against the Big 10 and SEC, we need to know the allegation. Certainly we are upset with what the P2 has already done to the school we love. But these are the facts. We can’t erase the damage that the SEC has done to our conference. Nor can we erase the serious allegations made by a U.S. Senator responsible for a bill that affects college athletics. The media has certainly sat up and took notice. Which is good.

You obviously have more reverence for politicians than I do. I think you're going to be disappointed when the Big10/SEC sanctions within the bill are dropped in order to get it passed.

 

[Kinch]

You obviously have more reverence for politicians than I do. I think you're going to be disappointed when the Big10/SEC sanctions within the bill are dropped in order to get it passed.

I don’t have reverence for politicians. But if anything the poli sci courses we took at Iowa State taught us, the U.S. Senate carries a lot of power. Petitti better respect it.

 

[Kinch]

Let me ask, what type of bill or changes would you support? Because the way we are doing business right now is not working for most of the programs and universities. Changes are coming, what those changes are, no one knows, but something has to be done.

And the changes better have the support of the two current co sponsors or it faces no chance.

 

[BadBoi]

I don’t have reverence for politicians. But if anything the poli sci courses we took at Iowa State taught us, the U.S. Senate carries a lot of power. Petitti better respect it.

Again, you're going to be disappointed.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Let me ask, what type of bill or changes would you support? Because the way we are doing business right now is not working for most of the programs and universities. Changes are coming, what those changes are, no one knows, but something has to be done.

I’d be more optimistic with a smaller bill that primarily focused on pooling/revenue sharing. The only faction that should be antagonized are filler level P2 that would see their subsidies end

It’s risky to couple the pooling/structure concepts to the always divisive labor topic. Adding constraints on coaching moves at the same time.

Odd that the author is advocating for the bill based on keeping up with China

 

[Kinch]

Again, you're going to be disappointed.

Where did I say I’d be disappointed? I think you agree that it’s been fun so far watching the Petitti- Cruz show. I’m not counting it ending up a certain way.

 

[Kinch]

 

[isu81]

I'm starting to think cykadelic is Cody Campbell.

Hard to think someone this stupid is a billionaire, but sometimes it happens.

 

[Kinch]

One aspect of the bill would prohibit schools from recruiting coaches during the season or the playoffs (the Lane Kiffin provision)

 

[Kinch]

One argument Sankey and Petitti use against the current bill is that it does nothing to preempt existing state laws. That too is a red herring. The SEC has demanded that Tennessee sign a loyalty pledge to the SEC. If the SEC is afraid to enforce the loyalty pledges and directly deal with Tennessee, why should Congress bail out the SEC and Big 10. Petitti and Sankey are gutless snakes.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Hard to think someone this stupid is a billionaire, but sometimes it happens.

Campbell definitely isn’t stupid
He also doesn’t seem particularly good at politics

Imo he’s making a poor move spending his money on legislation, rather than market solutions