Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[2speedy1]

That's 2020-21. Covid season. The year before they report 25 mil in ticket sales and we had 18.

We had more ticket sales in 2020 because we did partial attendance.

189K in ticket sales though, even with covid, they make more than that for wrestling tickets, hell probably for womens basketball or volleyball easily, even in a covid year. Considering I think most of those were open by the time those seasons started.

 

[20eyes]

I think the main point is that I'm pretty sure we pull our weight in TV ratings, and evidently we're top-25 in attendance nationally. We have the 3rd biggest stadium in the Big 12 behind Texas and OU.

So it's odd then out of all the Big 12 teams, we get the comparison to Oregon State or Washington State. These are teams averaging 20-30k in home attendance.

There's definitely a disconnect between the reality and perception of Iowa State.

Sure would be nice if our new Commish would at least TRY to connect that disconnect...

 

[BCClone]

I believe we are in the Top 10 for percentage of capacity, its like the top 5 are all at 100% capacity, then someone then we sit at like 7th at about 98.7%capacity.

We only had like 11500 per game though.

 

[2speedy1]

We only had like 11500 per game though.

What? we sold more than 60K average last year.

 

[Yellow Snow]

I think the main point is that I'm pretty sure we pull our weight in TV ratings, and evidently we're top-25 in attendance nationally. We have the 3rd biggest stadium in the Big 12 behind Texas and OU.

So it's odd then out of all the Big 12 teams, we get the comparison to Oregon State or Washington State. These are teams averaging 20-30k in home attendance.

There's definitely a disconnect between the reality and perception of Iowa State.

This is the truth. I mean, stop and think about it. Our last three bowl opponents were Notre Dame, Oregon, and Clemson.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

You know what I find interesting in that link, last year. Yes part of covid year.

We took in more or equal on every aspect on that list except Media and licensing.

We had more, donations, ticket sales, Conf Distributions, and were equal on NCAA distribution, Misc.

But in turn we dwarfed their expenses. As usual Iowa couldnt pay their bill.

I wonder how accurate this is. Because it says they Iowa only had 189K in ticket sales, and we had 2.6M.

1 game - 50,000 tickets x $65 average is $3.25M

EIU has a bigger stadium, and they charge more for the right to purchase seats than ISU does. For example, if I donate $500 dollars to ISU, that allows me to purchase 4 tickets, that same about at EIU is either 1 or 2 tickets. They raise about $10 million or more through donations than ISU does.

More donations, more TV money, but they also offer quite a few more sports than ISU.

 

[BCClone]

What? we sold more than 60K average last year.

Yeah, so when the 21-22 data pops, it will reflect that. What we do last year doesn’t change we sold around 11,500 for 4 games in 20-21 year.

 

[2speedy1]

 

[Statefan10]

This is the truth. I mean, stop and think about it. Our last three bowl opponents were Notre Dame, Oregon, and Clemson.

We’ve gone to 5 straight bowl games and played against 5 ranked opponents.

#19 Memphis
#12 Wazzu
#14 Notre Dame
#25 Oregon
#19 Clemson

If these morons would just do some baseline research they’d realize we are not even close to what we used to be.

 

[JUKEBOX]

This is the truth. I mean, stop and think about it. Our last three bowl opponents were Notre Dame, Oregon, and Clemson.

Even when we were bad, we like doubled those attendance figures.

 

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I like this, but not sure how accurate it is? No way Baylor fills 98.1% of their stadium.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Isn't AAU leaning towards medical schools? Who really fu@@ing cares? 1% of the population?

When I want to watch top notch football on TV, that's my first question. "Which channel has the AAU teams?"

I'm sure that's what coaches and recruits worry about too. "Do our players who take basket weaving, take basket weaving at an AAU institution?"

It honestly sounded like they allowed us to leave with our heads held high instead of throwing us out because they shifted focus to something we were never going to have.

 

[Lexclone]

+100% filled 3-9 Nebraska made me LOL

 

[Pope]

When does UI announce their departure?

UI has a major medical school and AAU criteria is heavily slanted toward institutions with medical schools.

 

[2speedy1]

Yeah, so when the 21-22 data pops, it will reflect that. What we do last year doesn’t change we sold around 11,500 for 4 games in 20-21 year.

ok but the post you replied on wasnt about that.

But for what you are talking about. The data I am refering to Iowa shows only 189k in ticket sales.
We show 2.6M.
These are for the entire year, for the entire AD, all sports. Not just Football.
So you are saying for the entire year, that Iowa, only sold 189k in tickets? when Only football tickets were drastically effected?

And ISU only sold 2.6M total when the same implies and they sold at least 600K for those 4 football games.
Of which I know there was more than 11,500 at at least a couple.

My question about that was the data and how accurate some of those figures are.

My other point on the attendance numbers last year was for something else, being replying to someone taling about our attendance ranking.

 

[alarson]

ok but the post you replied on wasnt about that.

But for what you are talking about. The data I am refering to Iowa shows only 189k in ticket sales.
We show 2.6M.
These are for the entire year, for the entire AD, all sports. Not just Football.
So you are saying for the entire year, that Iowa, only sold 189k in tickets? when Only football tickets were drastically effected?

And ISU only sold 2.6M total when the same implies and they sold at least 600K for those 4 football games.
Of which I know there was more than 11,500 at at least a couple.

My question about that was the data and how accurate some of those figures are.

My other point on the attendance numbers last year was for something else, being replying to someone taling about our attendance ranking.

Basketball tickets were also affected in 20-21.

Another factor that could also come into play is those who elected to carry over their dollars to the next year. They could be remaining on the 20-21 books with a credit for the next year (that we do not see yet)

 

[BCClone]

ok but the post you replied on wasnt about that.

But for what you are talking about. The data I am refering to Iowa shows only 189k in ticket sales.
We show 2.6M.
These are for the entire year, for the entire AD, all sports. Not just Football.
So you are saying for the entire year, that Iowa, only sold 189k in tickets? when Only football tickets were drastically effected?

And ISU only sold 2.6M total when the same implies and they sold at least 600K for those 4 football games.
Of which I know there was more than 11,500 at at least a couple.

My question about that was the data and how accurate some of those figures are.

My other point on the attendance numbers last year was for something else, being replying to someone taling about our attendance ranking.

No, all sports were affected during the Covid year. What did we have? 1000 basketball tickets. Big ten had no fans I thought.

 

[2speedy1]

UI has a major medical school and AAU criteria is heavily slanted toward institutions with medical schools.

I am going to repeat this on every single person that repeats this same thing.

Tell me how Oregon keeps their AAU status when they have 1/5 the research budget as ISU, and has neither a medical nor an engineer school.

No one wants to weigh in on that fact. Oregons research in miniscule and ranked in the 150s we were in the 70s and climbing at last rating, and have nearly doubled our research funding since.

Oregon has neither major factor for AAU, but somehow they can maintain their membership but we can not.

 

[2speedy1]

Basketball tickets were also affected in 20-21.

Another factor that could also come into play is those who elected to carry over their dollars to the next year. They could be remaining on the 20-21 books with a credit for the next year (that we do not see yet)

That would go under Donations, not ticket sales.

 

[alarson]

No, all sports were affected during the Covid year. What did we have? 1000 basketball tickets. Big ten had no fans I thought.

Correct.