Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Pretty much sums up my feelings on the US News rankings.
Bold strategy Cotton! Let’s see how it works out for them…
Oh boy, ACC…
Oh boy, ACC…
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Just wait until it is discussed with the P2 schools.
Media Crying Wolf on Pac-12 Stability Amid Big 12 Expansion Talks
It’s been a wild last few weeks in the college football world. I thought that last year’s news of Oklahoma and Texas leaving was going to be crazy, but it hasn’t had the same domino effect that the news of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten has had. Everyone had their own opinion in […]www.heartlandcollegesports.com
The digs at Stew made me lol
Stew seriously appears to be on the PAC's payroll. I mean I find no other explicable reason why he's so in the bag for that conference. Apologist in every possible way.
Does Stew forget that ISU destroyed Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl? Completely manhandled them.
Stew is awful but he is spot on with this observation. Keeping the quote short to respect the paywall.
“The execs at Fox and ESPN don’t have any sort of civic responsibility toward Iowa State or Oregon State fans; their only obligation is to their shareholders. They are making a multi-billion dollar bet that while loyal, local college football fans may be alienated by the changing tides, they are going to draw in millions and millions of new fans with more NFL-esque version of the sport where every Saturday is Ohio State vs. Penn State, followed by Texas vs. Alabama, followed by Georgia vs. Oklahoma, followed by Michigan at USC. Less charm, more blockbusters.”
We know that the suits at Fox and ESPN don’t give a **** about us; that’s a fact. ESPN tried to G5 us because they thought it would be convenient for OU and Texas.
It’s clear that what Stew describes is their hope. It’s not at all clear to me that this hope would become reality. I watch football most of Saturday for most weeks in the fall; I’d almost certainly reduce that heavily (if not give it up entirely) and increase my NFL fandom if Iowa State got relegated.
I know he currently lives in California (Silicon Valley area I believe) but he grew up in the Midwest (Ohio) and went to Northwestern so not sure why he loves him some Pac 10 so much?
Yet he’s the one that can’t understand why the Big 12 is in a stronger position than PAC (and ACC)!
What a simpleton.
If you truly think things are going to the P2 era to make NFL lite, the PAC and ACC are dead, as the P2 conferences are not done expanding.
These anti-Big 12 people want it both ways- or are at least thinking it’s a P2 era on one hand, while thinking it’s a P5 era on the other. If the PAC has more brands, it’s more likely to be poached- that breeds instability and weakness, and what the big 12 dealt with for 12 years.
I’m not sure the Pac has such a clear football value advantage overall, with some confusing brand name schools with brand name football
Sure.... but saying ISU and Oregon State are similar is beyond ridiculous.
ISU football games generally get a pretty good TV audience week in and week out.... nobody gives a s**t about Oregon State. ISU is ranked quite high in fan attendance and TV audience. We have a lot more to offer than teams like Oregon State.... yet we always get treated in the media like we're one of the worst teams in the country with no fan support.
If that was the only quote where he is linking osu and ISU together in the article, does not ruffle my feathers, one bit. If it is, the only ISU quote, He's in your head.
I’m sure he underrates Iowa State, because he’s a moron, but I wouldn’t read that into the quote which is correct. There are a lot of schools that Fox and ESPN would like to knife if it meant they could get the rights to a big boy, and both ISU and OSU are in that group.
Still a lot of chaff in the B1G and SEC to have the “every Saturday is a big matchup” argument out there…many more schools than just ISU and Oregon State, and more that live in the PAC now that the Big12, Stewie.
I can't help but question the idea that thinning the heard and consolidating brands will draw in this huge number of somehow uncaptured fans. Hasn't it been every year over the past half decade there are doom articles written about how viewer and attendance numbers are falling for both college football and the NFL? How is culling FBS, or the P5 more specifically down, to 32/36/40/48 teams going to capture more attention? It doesn't create anything new really. Sure there are more novel "high profile" matchups, but that novelty will wear off sooner than most writers seem to think.
I don’t know if it’s a good comparison, but this model works fine for the NFL.
It's a perception over reality game, ISU was horrible at football for so many years, and now new to putting a strong product on the field, that many national writers revert back to their old way of thinking, which is "ISU will never be good, because they never have been good in football."
It's a crock of ****, but many still think that way, and many have never gone to a game in Ames to see the difference from what it was 30 years ago to what it has become today. I have yet heard any national sports reports say they hated going to Ames for a game. It's just the opposite, they were surprised at the size of the stadium, not a "high school" stadium like they thought and the size of the crowd.
It's going to take winning the conference 4 or 5 times before that reality changes for many of these people, or get into the playoff.
