Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[1UNI2ISU]

If PAC’s forecasts are correct, $10-15M in TV rights per year with basketball as the flagship program is going to make Gonzaga one of, if not the, highest basketball budgets in the country.

Assuming what, 70% of that budget goes to basketball plus donors and gate revenue. How many other schools have like a $10M annual budget for basketball?

Just your bluest of blue bloods which Gonzaga is certainly creeping to.

The 'they weren't this good 25 years ago' thing is so stupid. They've got a massive budget, access to every other dollar they'd ever want from Nike and are already planning for life after Few.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Gonzaga going to the Pac 12. I REALLY didn't want them in the Big 12. Geographic outlier who has only been successful under one coach. I'd rather have Creighton for basketball only tbh.

Why do you want Creighton? They have almost no name rec and have only made it past the sweet 16 once in 80 years. Is it just the proximity?

 

[alarson]

Man that’s crazy to give them a full share. Absolutely nuts.

And they still have to find other teams for football, but now with one more team splitting that.

 

[2speedy1]

Very similar to what the Pac put out last year If I remember right.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Just your bluest of blue bloods which Gonzaga is certainly creeping to.

The 'they weren't this good 25 years ago' thing is so stupid. They've got a massive budget, access to every other dollar they'd ever want from Nike and are already planning for life after Few.

Agree with this, they have been good for so long now (despite my dislike of their cakewalk conference) that they have a lot of recognition. Much better then most of the basketball schools in the big east that no one under 40 even remembers being good.

 

[HFCS]

I guess now we know why new Pac only had 6 teams. I know they need to get to 8 but does Gonzaga count without football?

UNLV has to be feeling pretty fantastic as a potential #8. Question is would they add more leftover MVC or are they holding out hope for Cal/Stan?

I'm really not convinced Memphis or Tulane would be better off moving to that new league vs staying where they are. The American is not going to have more teams leave for the ACC/Big 12 at this point.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I guess now we know why new Pac only had 6 teams. I know they need to get to 8 but does Gonzaga count without football?

UNLV has to be feeling pretty fantastic as a potential #8. Question is would they add more leftover MVC or are they holding out hope for Cal/Stan?

I'm really not convinced Memphis or Tulane would be better off moving to that new league vs staying where they are. The American is not going to have more teams leave for the ACC/Big 12 at this point.

Have to get to 8 football schools.

Air Force is a no.

It's going to be UNLV and Utah State plus 1 more (probably Nevada) for 9 football/10 all sports. Really the perfect number.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Very similar to what the Pac put out last year If I remember right.

Well this is a little different because those 4 have a safe harbor in the AAC, and are the most valuable (remaining) brands in the conference.

The PAC 12 schools had just lost USC and UCLA, had an expiring television contract, and had idiotic leadership while they were putting out their statements.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I guess now we know why new Pac only had 6 teams. I know they need to get to 8 but does Gonzaga count without football?

UNLV has to be feeling pretty fantastic as a potential #8. Question is would they add more leftover MVC or are they holding out hope for Cal/Stan?

I'm really not convinced Memphis or Tulane would be better off moving to that new league vs staying where they are. The American is not going to have more teams leave for the ACC/Big 12 at this point.

I don’t think cal or Stanford would leave a power conference. They could have essentially just done this before the ACC move but depending on the noise their Olympic sports make for travel I could see it down the road.

 

[gocy444]

Why do you want Creighton? They have almost no name rec and have only made it past the sweet 16 once in 80 years. Is it just the proximity?

I don’t want Creighton either. But I’d rather have them than Gonzaga.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I don’t want Creighton either. But I’d rather have them than Gonzaga.

Yeah but why? They are worse in every single possible way

 

[ZorkClone]

Not so fast PAC-12!

 

[gocy444]

Yeah but why? They are worse in every single possible way

Huge arena that always sells out, right in the heart of Big 12 country. Omaha is cool and a driveable road game. Been successful under multiple coaches. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want either. But Spokane is in the middle of nowhere, plays in a smallish gym and could very well fall off a cliff once Few leaves. Then we’re stuck with this weird school thousands of miles away from everyone else.

 

[HFCS]

I don’t think cal or Stanford would leave a power conference. They could have essentially just done this before the ACC move but depending on the noise their Olympic sports make for travel I could see it down the road.

I'm saying the power conference can and most likely will leave them.

The Big Ten is not going to chose them over top ACC targets. The SEC surely isn't going to add them.

Their choice is going to be long shot that Big 12 wants to get into California, an even worse non power conference gutted ACC where they're flying across the country to play Boston College, or this new Pac.

WCC is not a horrible option for Olympic sports if they were to abandon football and they are closer to "pier" universities in Stanford's case, but even that just got worse with the marquee program leaving.

 

[ClubCy]

If we win out except Utah, then lose the Conf Champ, according to ESPN we still make playoffs at #4 seed. But I question this as they don't have Utah in (assuming they are Big 12 champs).

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I think you either had Iowa state winning out but losing the ccg or losing to Utah but winning the ccg? I ran losing to Utah and losing the ccg and got a 69% chance at the playoff with a first round game at ole miss.

It would impossible to lose the ccg and get the 4 seed.

 

[HFCS]

Have to get to 8 football schools.

Air Force is a no.

It's going to be UNLV and Utah State plus 1 more (probably Nevada) for 9 football/10 all sports. Really the perfect number.

I figure that but there has to be something behind the scenes for the 6 team version to come out so early vs the others.

With last Big 12 expansion Arizona was in for a looooong time, but they had to drag their feet for ASU. CU had no reason to drag its feet so that's why they announced first. Is it the Pac West playing chess or is it Utah St, Nevada/UNLV dragging feet?

 

[AdRock4Cy]

Why do you want Creighton? They have almost no name rec and have only made it past the sweet 16 once in 80 years. Is it just the proximity?

That's pretty darn impressive.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I'm saying the power conference can and most likely will leave them.

The Big Ten is not going to chose them over top ACC targets. The SEC surely isn't going to add them.

Their choice is going to be long shot that Big 12 wants to get into California, an even worse non power conference gutted ACC where they're flying across the country to play Boston College, or this new Pac.

WCC is not a horrible option for Olympic sports if they were to abandon football and they are closer to "pier" universities in Stanford's case, but even that just got worse with the marquee program leaving.

Depends a lot of what actually happens with the ACC deal. FSU and Clemson have been very quiet with their horrible losses. Not saying it’s enough for them to reconsider but staying in the ACC is possible, nothing guarantees the Big ten or SEC takes them. I’m not betting on the ACC staying intact but I could see it as a remote possibility

 

[FriendlySpartan]

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That's pretty darn impressive.

Agreed, nice run they have had. But that’s the first elite 8 in over 80 years. Compare that to Gonzaga now.

 

[HFCS]

Depends a lot of what actually happens with the ACC deal. FSU and Clemson have been very quiet with their horrible losses. Not saying it’s enough for them to reconsider but staying in the ACC is possible, nothing guarantees the Big ten or SEC takes them. I’m not betting on the ACC staying intact but I could see it as a remote possibility

Yeah, if for some reason the Big Ten and SEC never pull a single jenga piece of UNC, UVA, FSU and Clemson I guess we're potentially stable. Seems like a massive "if".

The Big 12 somehow avoided that exact thing for over a decade with Texas always flirting. The massive difference is for most of those years Texas was actually raking in the most cash of all college athletics programs so it wasn't like they chose to stay in the Big 12 and slum it for less money, they were cashing bigger checks than SEC/Big Ten foes at the time they chose to stay.

Notre Dame is always out there as a potential "OK we are done" for the Big Ten. That's probably the best hope for the ACC teams outside of those four who would have a home. Even if the Big Ten does that, then the SEC has to say they're all good too...which does make more sense because they're already in Florida and South Carolina so they're really just saying no to Virgina, and North Carolina.