Re-al Mitchell Packages

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  1. Artic Zone

    Artic Zone Well-Known Member

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    again, they cant MAKE him go in at WR or RB or wildcat.

    they want him to switch positions. they know hes not a qb.... you think its a coincidence that right after he enrolled at isu Jan 2018 they went out and landed Purdy? The kid does not want to move positions, he believes hes a qb and maybe he is but i doubt we'll find that out at ISU
     
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  2. dbodeenisudm

    dbodeenisudm Well-Known Member

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    also too scared to run purdy
    i get it, fearful of him getting hurt
    but fear doesnt bode well for 10 win seasons
     
  3. titleist

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    This is over-exaggerated and inaccurate take from what's being said here.
     
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  4. Artic Zone

    Artic Zone Well-Known Member

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  5. clonedude

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    I wish we could do this, but the fact is we can't.

    I'd love nothing more than to put in Re Al and run the option like 18 plays in a row against KSU and just run it down their throats like they did to us last night, but the fact is, our OL isn't good enough, and overall we're just not tough enough to do that to anyone.

    Jared mentioned this in his podcast after the game last night. We were out-toughed all night on both sides of the ball.... and outcoached too.

    But I get what you're saying. If we refuse to let Brock run, then we might as well take all the RPO's, the play action, etc out of the playbook because no defense is going to respect it when they know Brock won't run it.

    I'd absolutely LOVE to bring in Re Al and just play smash mouth football like KSU does, but we don't have the OL or the toughness to do that unfortunately.

    Football always has been won and lost on being able to run the ball, and stop the run. Last night we couldn't do either. And especially with 40 mph winds, that's not a good recipe for success.
     
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  6. nickoff

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    After watching the lack of creativity on offense the first half of the season, I gave up on them doing anything cool with Mitchell. Doesn't seem in the cards for this staff right now.

    I thought it was a big wasted opportunity, where they could have used him for few options runs to setup the opposing defense, then when we needed a boost have him keep it and try a pass. The film tape would have them thinking 75% chance he runs, maybe catch em off guard.

    It is possible the unreliability of the Oline kept them from doing much in the way of trickery / creative plays this year. But i don't like that excuse. Right now we aren't good enough to win straight up. Some trick / creative stuff is often how lesser teams find ways to win.
    Disappointing for sure.
     
  7. IcSyU

    IcSyU Well-Known Member

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    "We should never be happy with a 7-5 record"

    Um, have you seen Iowa State's history in football? Like it or not, 7-5 is one of the best seasons in school history. Yes it sucks we lost 4 games by 1 score but it just as easily could've been an L against UNI and an L against Texas.

    I'll go ahead and take the coaching staff's opinion on who should get playing time.

    I'll also go ahead and venture a guess Re-al is done in Ames and wish him well in his future if that's the case. He competed for the job and just got beat out by a guy who will keep him off the field for awhile. If he thinks he's a QB and someone will give him that opportunity more power to him.
     
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  8. titleist

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    I don't agree with this and I don't think Bill Belichick or Lincoln Riley would either but I can understand how this could be perceived to be the case.
     
  9. nickoff

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    If we had the players from the Patriots and OK, I don't think we would need any trick plays either. But we don't. We have to find ways to win. You can win in the margins by playing mistake free ball and being sound in every facet of the game, but we are not that either. So minus that, I think being creative and unpredictable on offense would be good. Just my opinion.
     
  10. titleist

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    Oh agree. My point was that I don't believe using trick plays makes you a 'lesser' team. The Pats and Sooners use them every weekend.
     
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  11. bthebutcher

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    This is unrelated but you generally seem to be "in the know". At one point during the year Jay Jordan suggested in a tweet (I think during or after the Okie St. game) that Purdy has been banged up. Any truth to the notion that Purdy has been playing at less than 100%?
     
  12. casey1973

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    Well Belichick or McDaniels had Edelmen throw a touchdown pass a couple games ago. We need to do something because we've regressed the last few games and it's just not Purdy. Mitchell is strong and fast in my view and surely there is a few plays out there for him. It's a head scratcher for sure.
     
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  13. Blandboy

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    If Mitchell won’t change positions for the benefit of the team (ala Laning), then let him transfer. Don’t need a player who puts his needs ahead of the team. Heck, even Rose moved to outside linebacker to allow Vance to get on the field.
     
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  14. exCYtable

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    Imagine that package that Jones ran against Iowa with the option to run or throw deep down the sidelines. No reason we couldn't run that 3-4 times a game!
     
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  15. CyCloned

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    Re-al is not the answer full time, but sure would have given him a series in the gale force winds last night, just to see if ISU could run the ball against KSU.
     
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  16. cyclonestate

    cyclonestate Well-Known Member

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    While he was only allowed to carry the ball 10 times this year, he averaged 10 yards per carry. Don't you think that should warrant more carries?
     
  17. c.y.c.l.o.n.e.s

    c.y.c.l.o.n.e.s Well-Known Member

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    Re-al was an elite 11 finalist and top 25 dual threat QB coming out of high school. I'm guessing he is tired of getting beat out by elite talent (Josh Rosen, DJ Uiagalalie and Purdy). Can't blame him if he wants to finally go somewhere where he can prove or disprove his ability. His junior year of HS was his only chance to do that and he was outstanding.
     
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  18. Inthesystem

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    Purdy sure seemed a little slower this year but that has happened to other ISU quarterbacks after they get banged up.
     
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  19. cyclonestate

    cyclonestate Well-Known Member

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    When we were down by 7 with 5+ minutes left in the game and Purdy intentionally slid 5 yards short of the 1st down marker on 3rd down, I just shook my head. Are they trying to make sure he'll remain healthy for the trip to Memphis? If there's ever a time when you throw caution to the wind and try everything in your power to get the first down, that was it.
     
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  20. 67CY

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    Last year he would have used his pump fake and got at least the first down
     

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