***Official ISU vs Texas Meltdown Thread***

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I'm watching the Packers v Jets now. Just a minute or so ago, with about 4' left in the 3rd qtr, Lazard got clocked in the head. Penalty called, not sure if they called targeting or not but it went against the Jets. The color guy, Greg Olsen, said it should be targeting with any contact to the head, whether helmet OR Shoulder pad to helmet contact. He said it doesn't matter.. helmet or shoulder.

I guess the NFL rules are different.

I guess that in college you can absolutely clock your opponent in the head, with both the helmet and shoulder, and get away with it.

That is if your name is Texas.

The NFL doesn’t have targeting, only 15 yd unnecessary roughness, and nobody gets ejected.
 
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The rule is inconsistent even within the same game, let across CFB. But people seem to think there is some grand conspiracy against ISU and there isn’t. This fan base already has a national reputation of blaming every game on refs and constantly rehashing the Baylor and Texas games for the next 9 months is only going to further that perception. It looks petty.

Yup, bad calls suck, it they happen in every game and have been a part of football for over 100 years.
 

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Perhaps ISU is not paying enough money into the referee's account or the Big 12 oversite committee. Obviously we are not paying enough or to the right people. Where can we send letters, emails, etc to the head office. Anyone have addresses?
 
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The rule is inconsistent even within the same game, let across CFB. But people seem to think there is some grand conspiracy against ISU and there isn’t. This fan base already has a national reputation of blaming every game on refs and constantly rehashing the Baylor and Texas games for the next 9 months is only going to further that perception. It looks petty.

Yup, bad calls suck, it they happen in every game and have been a part of football for over 100 years.

We had a week's worth of questioning the coaches on here. And at least a day's worth of blaming Hutchinson on here. Frankly, blaming the refs is the least damaging thing that we do. Not sure why it has to be shut down.
 

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We had a week's worth of questioning the coaches on here. And at least a day's worth of blaming Hutchinson on here. Frankly, blaming the refs is the least damaging thing that we do. Not sure why it has to be shut down.
Not shutting anything down, just stating an opinion. Blaming Hutch is equally as stupid.
 
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The rule is inconsistent even within the same game, let across CFB. But people seem to think there is some grand conspiracy against ISU and there isn’t. This fan base already has a national reputation of blaming every game on refs and constantly rehashing the Baylor and Texas games for the next 9 months is only going to further that perception. It looks petty.

Yup, bad calls suck, it they happen in every game and have been a part of football for over 100 years.
Literally every fanbase blames the refs after a loss; go look at any message board. It just seems that way because you're hearing from dorks from rival fanbases that do the same thing.
 

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Literally every fanbase blames the refs after a loss; go look at any message board. It just seems that way because you're hearing from dorks from rival fanbases that do the same thing.
Yes, but ISU has used it as a crutch for many years to explain all the close losses. At some point, a team gets good enough to overcome the bad calls, just like everyone else has to do. We have a fabulous fan base, but it is even more sensitive and ref blaming than others.
 

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It just comes down to mistakes. We make too many. And as a result every bad call is game changing.

Pick in the end zone, dropped passes, blocked punt etc

The guys gave it all they had, and showed great improvement, why it took till the middle of October to put together a reasonable offense attack, I have no idea. but when every game you play is almost guaranteed to be a coin flip, you can’t make those mistakes.
 

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Yeah that’s why it’s frustrating the most probably. Because we are constantly on the other side of the calls.
No, our fans just don’t let it go and think we somehow always lose all the close games because of the refs. I am a diehard fan but try to watch without cardinal tinted glasses on. Love our fan base to death but they try to find blame and are super sensitive.
 

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It just comes down to mistakes. We make too many. And as a result every bad call is game changing.

Pick in the end zone, dropped passes, blocked punt etc

The guys gave it all they had, and showed great improvement, why it took till the middle of October to put together a reasonable offense attack, I have no idea. but when every game you play is almost guaranteed to be a coin flip, you can’t make those mistakes.
Exactly. If we won in the margins or played better at times, these bad calls that go both ways wouldn’t always seem so bad. Texas did enough yesterday to win, that’s it.
 
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No, our fans just don’t let it go and think we somehow always lose all the close games because of the refs. I am a diehard fan but try to watch without cardinal tinted glasses on. Love our fan base to death but they try to find blame and are super sensitive.

Every fan base does the exact same thing. You don't notice it because you don't follow other team's as close. Are we maybe a tiny bit more sensitive than some teams? Maybe. But honestly I have no idea because I don't follow other teams. And I'm guessing you don't either.
 

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Every fan base does the exact same thing. You don't notice it because you don't follow other team's as close. Are we maybe a tiny bit more sensitive than some teams? Maybe. But honestly I have no idea because I don't follow other teams. And I'm guessing you don't either.
I do actually. And yes all fans complain for a day or two but here the same call can be brought up for years, literally. If we played better in close games and didn’t always kill our own drives, we wouldn’t be in a position where a single call seemingly changes the game.
 

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It just comes down to mistakes. We make too many. And as a result every bad call is game changing.

Pick in the end zone, dropped passes, blocked punt etc

The guys gave it all they had, and showed great improvement, why it took till the middle of October to put together a reasonable offense attack, I have no idea. but when every game you play is almost guaranteed to be a coin flip, you can’t make those mistakes.
That’s true, but the strategy of playing to keep the score close and hope for a chance at the end also plays into it. When that’s your strategy, every mistake and every bad call looms larger.
 

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That’s true, but the strategy of playing to keep the score close and hope for a chance at the end also plays into it. When that’s your strategy, every mistake and every bad call looms larger.
Perfectly said. When you play to keep it close and don’t win in the margins, anything can determine the outcome negatively. Thus 1-8 in the last 9 one score games. Nobody seems to connect those things though.
 

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I do actually. And yes all fans complain for a day or two but here the same call can be brought up for years, literally. If we played better in close games and didn’t always kill our own drives, we wouldn’t be in a position where a single call seemingly changes the game.

So you follow EVERY team close enough to know how long they ***** about officiating and how often? You must have a lot of time on your hands.
 

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I do actually.


Have you heard of any other university with multiple apology letters from their respective conference? There might be........I don't know.

I would assume conferences don't just issue those to shut up a loud fan base.

So yeah......we sometimes can be over bearing, but to some point it is a bit of a touchy subject and maybe sometimes with games like Baylor (Freyler) and yesterday ISU fans should be given a break. Who gives a rats a** what anyone else thinks.
 
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The rule is inconsistent even within the same game, let across CFB. But people seem to think there is some grand conspiracy against ISU and there isn’t. This fan base already has a national reputation of blaming every game on refs and constantly rehashing the Baylor and Texas games for the next 9 months is only going to further that perception. It looks petty.

Yup, bad calls suck, it they happen in every game and have been a part of football for over 100 years.
Bingo.
 

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The rule is inconsistent even within the same game, let across CFB. But people seem to think there is some grand conspiracy against ISU and there isn’t. This fan base already has a national reputation of blaming every game on refs and constantly rehashing the Baylor and Texas games for the next 9 months is only going to further that perception. It looks petty.

Yup, bad calls suck, it they happen in every game and have been a part of football for over 100 years.

I mean, we also have reputation for getting ****** by the refs. That isn't just within our own fanbase.
 

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That’s true, but the strategy of playing to keep the score close and hope for a chance at the end also plays into it. When that’s your strategy, every mistake and every bad call looms larger.

If the strategy is to hang around and have a chance late, that's fine and likely the only way ISU can sustain success....but certain aspects of the game need to be much more succinct for when those handful of plays come around.
 

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