***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[Gonzo]

I get that Gonzo is an Iowa fan, and the Big 10 might just be the best academic conference outside of the Ivy League, but I've never understood ISU fans calling the SEC a "cesspool academic conference." While I consider ISU to be a very good academic college, when it's the second or third best college in the Big 12 academically, it's essentially the pot calling the kettle black. For instance, Taco Tech, K-State, and West Virginia are probably as bad if not worse than anything the SEC has to offer.

My point was that I think, academically, UNC would rather run with schools like Michigan, Northwestern, Virginia (if it happens), Wisconsin, Illinois, Penn St. I know realignment is about TV markets and athletic dollars, but academics and academic reputation is a big-time concern to a lot of alums and donors. Maybe 'cesspool' is a bit strong, but the SEC isn't close and UNC just would seem like a strange fit.

 

[Gorm]

Somethings going down tomorrow morning:

ACC Will Vote On Expansion Wednesday Morning David Glenn

 

[DistrictCyclone]

Somethings going down tomorrow morning:

ACC Will Vote On Expansion Wednesday Morning David Glenn

I have no idea how reputable this is, but Louisville would be a shock to me. LOL at UConn getting jilted twice; it'll be interesting how far they'll spread their legs after being spurned this time.

 

[DistrictCyclone]

My point was that I think, academically, UNC would rather run with schools like Michigan, Northwestern, Virginia (if it happens), Wisconsin, Illinois, Penn St. I know realignment is about TV markets and athletic dollars, but academics and academic reputation is a big-time concern to a lot of alums and donors. Maybe 'cesspool' is a bit strong, but the SEC isn't close and UNC just would seem like a strange fit.

Go ahead, give in to your inner urges and list Iowa among them. We all know you're thinking it...might as well say it, too :wink:

 

[bluestarcyclone]

ACC expected to vote to add Louisville Cardinals, source says - ESPN

ESPN reporting the ACC-Louisville thing too

 

[Cy$]

ACC expected to vote to add Louisville Cardinals, source says - ESPN

ESPN reporting the ACC-Louisville thing too

Looks like my source was right about thinking of adding one of Louisville, UCONN, or Cincy

 

[cyclones500]

My gut says, ACC is trying to bulk up to become supreme basketball conference (supplanting Big East in that regard) while maintaining as much football relevance as possible (that is, no worse than current status). Possibly, possibly massaging ND as all-sport member down the line.

ACC can part with Maryland and pick up Lou-uh-vul as equal trade-off (and possibly expand regional TV-reach).

 

[ripvdub]

Not s great move by Louisville unless the ACC gets a tv deal increase or they all sign a GoR. They still make far less than everyone else, i don't se how this would keep anyone from leaving got another conference.

 

[cyfanatic]

Pat Forde just tweeted that UL to the ACC is a done deal and will be posting a story in a few minutes with details. Does this satisfy FSU & Clemson?

 

[cyfanatic]

Here is the Forde column:

ACC adds Louisville in realignment - Yahoo! Sports

 

[ISUAgronomist]

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV
Until the Big 10 acts, expansion is dead.

And here I thought it would only be "a matter of days" until the ACC crumbled :biglaugh:

 

[Mumbai1986]

Well, what does the Big 12 do now?

 

[jimmycy]

I think the big 12 made a mistake by not adding louisville. I can' really support that with hard facts but I think we will regret it in the long run. Louisville seemed like it would have fit well in our league. i'm worried about WVU being on an island.

 

[chuckd4735]

Well, what does the Big 12 do now?

Nothing.

 

[FarminCy]

I think the big 12 made a mistake by not adding louisville. I can' really support that with hard facts but I think we will regret it in the long run. Louisville seemed like it would have fit well in our league. i'm worried about WVU being on an island.

I personally would have rather had Louisville than TCU.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

I think the big 12 made a mistake by not adding louisville. I can' really support that with hard facts but I think we will regret it in the long run. Louisville seemed like it would have fit well in our league. i'm worried about WVU being on an island.

The problem is Louisville didn't have a partner (worth enough money to cover Louisville's shortfall in value) to bring with them to the Big 12.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

I personally would have rather had Louisville than TCU.

I agree.

 

[chuckd4735]

I personally would have rather had Louisville than TCU.

Yes because playing a game every other year in Louisville, Kentucky would of benefited ISU much more then one in Fort Worth, Texas.

 

[Daserop]

I was pulling for Louisville to the Big 12....

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Yes because playing a game every other year in Louisville, Kentucky would of benefited ISU much more then one in Fort Worth, Texas.

We have plenty of football games in Texas. Look at what adding Louisville could have added to the MBB profile vs. TCU.

21,000 fans for Louisville basketball. TCU will probably average 2,100.