After the 60s and 70s the fear was we were entering the next ice age. These people always need something to panic over.
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Yeah, I totally understand that. Which was precisely my point that you shouldn't use one 70 degree day in December in Iowa as evidence of global climate change.
I could see a line of storms develop ahead of the cold front but not the individual supercells out of ahead of the front on Wednesday/early Thursday that would produce tornadoes. Even QLCS would be unlikely.
Here is an awesome article on the shift of tornado alley into the dixie alley since ~1979
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-018-0048-2
One if my favorite sayings, “ If God is a Confederate, Mother Nature is a Yankee”
It's called weather, nothing else
I'm tempted to give you a dumb response just like you gave me, but I'll give you the courtesy of explaining why I disagree with your response.
70 degrees in central Iowa in December and tornadoes in December with 200+ mile paths of destruction isn't just called weather, it's called extreme weather. And extreme weather conditions are being brought on by climate change. It's not just something we'll see in the future. We're seeing it now.
Willie Ray's Q-Shack just announced he's making the trip to Kentucky.
Every year Missouri and Arkansas sees on average 2 tornadoes each in December. While the ones we saw over the weekend were way stronger than they probably typically see in December, it’s not totally unheard of for them to see tornadoes this time of year.
There have always been extreme weather events. Through some periods throughout history they have been more frequent and other periods not. Our climate is always changing and it always has the previous 4 and a half billion years.
Weather extremes are normal. We hit -33F here in So. Minn 3 years ago, coldest since the 1930s extremes.
Everyone knows this. That isn’t the problem or question at hand. Were there always 6 billion people on earth? Pollution, greenhouse gases, carbon emissions etc are like compounding interest. We’ll keep ******* around and probably find out.
Yeah focus on those tiny blue lines in the 60s and 70s and ignore the obvious straight line trend, great idea. Way to think about our children and grandchildren.
Yeah focus on those tiny blue lines in the 60s and 70s and ignore the obvious straight line trend, great idea. Way to think about our children and grandchildren.
Please graph and source a larger range, say maybe 1400 - 2020.
I remember that fear-mongering well. In the second grade circa 1970, we were given these pamphlets call Jr. Scholastica or something like that. They really bummed me out because they harped on about looming global cooling. I had no way of knowing that was just bad science, sheer nonsense.
The 70s fears are basically the lyrics to London Calling:
The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear error, but I have no fear
'Cause London is drowning
I, I live by the river
Industrial revolution is only roughly 250 years or so. There is a reason to be especially interested in that unprecedented system input.
We won't, but future generations will. It's crazy what humans have done since the industrial evolution. Good, bad, everything in between. But "the climate's always changed" simpleton excuse so many people spew is good enough, so **** it.
Pretty tiny sample size you’re looking at when factoring the earths existence. I guess it beats the 100 feet of ice that existed at one time in central iowa. Had to see quite a warming trend to melt all that.Yeah focus on those tiny blue lines in the 60s and 70s and ignore the obvious straight line trend, great idea. Way to think about our children and grandchildren.
Survival rate in E4+ tornadoes, inside a well-built home is 99%.
In most cases, you're taking a bigger risk by leaving shelter. You aren't living through it in a car, and you're at risk to secondary threats besides the main funnel now.
Ground-level, interior room of a well-built home (not a trailer) is definitely where you want to be.
https:// journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/1/bams-89-1-87.xml
