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gilaclone

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I have watched it in our games but actually wrote it down tonight in the KU vs Oklahoma game. At 8:08 to go in the game Bill Self called a time out. It went to a TV time out. At 7:54 Kansas lost the ball out of bounds...ball to Oklahoma....but they called a media time out. TV time out.

I've seen this same occurrence numerous times in Ames this year????

I thought the new rule is ....within 30 seconds of a normal media time out... a Called Time out ( as described above by our friend Bill Self) becomes the media time out... ???? I've read and researched this rule.....???? but continue to see two time outs ?
 
My understanding matches yours, I think there have been some mistakes to be honest.
 
Happened on Saturday too..Prohm called a timeout with 4:05 left, tv timeout. Then no timeout on next dead ball.
 
I thought it was just within the first media timeouts of the half. So the 16:00
Minute mark. Could easily be wrong.
 
CloneinWDSM said:
I thought it was just within the first media timeouts of the half. So the 16:00
Minute mark. Could easily be wrong.
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I thought that was supposed to be it also. However, I've been confused on this several times this year too.
 
gilaclone said:
I have watched it in our games but actually wrote it down tonight in the KU vs Oklahoma game. At 8:08 to go in the game Bill Self called a time out. It went to a TV time out. At 7:54 Kansas lost the ball out of bounds...ball to Oklahoma....but they called a media time out. TV time out.

I've seen this same occurrence numerous times in Ames this year????

I thought the new rule is ....within 30 seconds of a normal media time out... a Called Time out ( as described above by our friend Bill Self) becomes the media time out... ???? I've read and researched this rule.....???? but continue to see two time outs ?
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Was there a 12 minute media timeout?
 
The first team-called timeout of the second half, no matter when it is, extends to a media timeout. It also does not take the place of the regularly-scheduled media timeout. That part of the timeout rule is the same as it had been in previous years.

For all other team timeouts, any TO called within :30 of the "break zone" or a TO that creates the first dead ball inside the "break zone" is extended to a media timeout and does replace the regularly-scheduled media timeout.
 
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theshadow said:
The first team-called timeout of the second half, no matter when it is, extends to a media timeout. It also does not take the place of the regularly-scheduled media timeout. That part of the timeout rule is the same as it had been in previous years.

For all other team timeouts, any TO called within :30 of the "break zone" or a TO that creates the first dead ball inside the "break zone" is extended to a media timeout and does replace the regularly-scheduled media timeout.
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Ok, So I don't know, maybe that was Kansas' 1st called timeout of the 2nd half...therefore based on what you describe above the regular media timeout went into effect on the out of bounds.
 
theshadow said:
The first team-called timeout of the second half, no matter when it is, extends to a media timeout. It also does not take the place of the regularly-scheduled media timeout. That part of the timeout rule is the same as it had been in previous years.

For all other team timeouts, any TO called within :30 of the "break zone" or a TO that creates the first dead ball inside the "break zone" is extended to a media timeout and does replace the regularly-scheduled media timeout.
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Now I'm more confused. Doesn't making the first time out of the second half become a media time out, without changing the actual media time outs, make the game longer? Wasn't the idea to shorten the game?
 
The first team called timeout of the second half is a media timeout regardless of when it's called.
 
WastedTalent said:
Now I'm more confused. Doesn't making the first time out of the second half become a media time out, without changing the actual media time outs, make the game longer? Wasn't the idea to shorten the game?
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Again, that part is the only carryover rule.

They've made the game shorter by:
*Decreasing team timeouts from 5 to 4
*Making other team timeouts in/near the break zone a media timeout

Last year, if a team called a TO at 16:15 in 1H, we would have that TO *plus* the under-16 later. Now, that TO at 16:15 serves as the under-16 media TO. Effectively, that shortens the game by the length of a :30 TO (which ends up being almost a minute in real time).

Additionally, officials aren't letting teams dawdle. It used to be first horn, second horn, a bunch of whistles, break the huddle, trudge to the court, play. Now, it's first horn, whistles, break huddle, second horn, play. There is actually a bench warning now for delaying the game after a timeout. A second warning results in a technical foul.
 
theshadow said:
Last year, if a team called a TO at 16:15 in 1H, we would have that TO *plus* the under-16 later. Now, that TO at 16:15 serves as the under-16 media TO. Effectively, that shortens the game by the length of a :30 TO (which ends up being almost a minute in real time).
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This was my understanding as well, but last night KU called a timeout with 8:08 left in the 2H. They took it, commercials and everything, came back, started play, then at 7: something there was a dead ball, and they took the under 8 timeout.
 
Again, the rules are simple and clear, the execution has been bungled and causes unnecessary confusion.
 
So, if I understand this right, a called timeout within 30 seconds of 4:00, 8:00, 12:00, or 16:00 will function as a media timeout and replace the following media timeout - unless it is the first called timeout of the 2nd half, in which case it will function as a media timeout but it will not replace anything.
 
WastedTalent said:
This was my understanding as well, but last night KU called a timeout with 8:08 left in the 2H. They took it, commercials and everything, came back, started play, then at 7: something there was a dead ball, and they took the under 8 timeout.
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Which is absolutely correct because it is the first team-called timeout of the SECOND half.
 
CyFan61 said:
So, if I understand this right, a called timeout within 30 seconds of 4:00, 8:00, 12:00, or 16:00 will function as a media timeout and replace the following media timeout - unless it is the first called timeout of the 2nd half, in which case it will function as a media timeout but it will not replace anything.
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That's the cliffs notes version.
 
Jeremy said:
Again, the rules are simple and clear, the execution has been bungled and causes unnecessary confusion.
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Based on this thread, the fans' understanding of the rule has been bungled much more than the application of the rule.
 
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