I’ll be shocked if it’s not Oscar nominated for best animated. Think more in line with Incredibles (but with more groundbreaking visuals) than Pantasm.
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I’ll be shocked if it’s not Oscar nominated for best animated. Think more in line with Incredibles (but with more groundbreaking visuals) than Pantasm.
Here's the trailer for the Animated Spider-Man film. It definitely has style. There isn't a Star Wars* or MCU film that will be in theaters this Christmas should help it draw an audience.
*Assuming that they don't push back the Han Solo film
*Assuming that they don't push back the Han Solo film
That looks really good.
I think a lot of people grew up watching animated superhero cartoons and don't view the feature length films as much more than extensions of the cartoons they watched for free. That, plus super hero fatigue, will keep a fair number of movie-goers away, IMO. If they were original creations (i.e. The Incredibles) people are going to be more apt to give something new a try.
A lot of hype leading up to Black Panther's opening - it is leading all Superhero films in advanced-ticket sales:
Black Panther is projected to make $100-$120 million opening week. It will be interesting to see how it compares to Deadpool, which was also a February release and brought in $132 million its opening week.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-much-would-black-panther-have-to-make-to-out-earn-e-1822609150
Black Panther is projected to make $100-$120 million opening week. It will be interesting to see how it compares to Deadpool, which was also a February release and brought in $132 million its opening week.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-much-would-black-panther-have-to-make-to-out-earn-e-1822609150
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If that's the case, it would only be behind the first Avengers film as highest grossing "origin" movie in the MCU and would rank 6th overall in the MCU for opening box office, just behind GotG V2 ($146.5 million it's opening weekend).
I consider "origin" movie (for lack of a better term) as the first installment of character/ensemble film series. Here's how the other origin films rank in comparison:
The Avengers: $207 million opening
Spider-Man Homecoming: $117 million opening
Iron Man: $98 million opening
GotG: $94 million
Doctor Strange: $85 million
Thor: $65 million
Captain America: The First Avenger: $65 million
Ant-Man: $57 million
The Incredible Hulk: $55 million
I think it's a safe bet to add Black Panther 2 to the list of "Phase 4" films.Spider-Man Homecoming: $117 million opening
Iron Man: $98 million opening
GotG: $94 million
Doctor Strange: $85 million
Thor: $65 million
Captain America: The First Avenger: $65 million
Ant-Man: $57 million
The Incredible Hulk: $55 million
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franch...avengers.htm&sort=opengross&order=DESC&p=.htm
Black Panther reviews are out:
Currently sitting at 100% Fresh score, with an average score of 8.6/10 on Rotten Tomatoes (13 Top Critic Reviews, 51 total reviews).
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_panther_2018
Currently at 87/100 on MetaCritic (based on 22 reviews)
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/black-panther?ref=hp
Currently sitting at 100% Fresh score, with an average score of 8.6/10 on Rotten Tomatoes (13 Top Critic Reviews, 51 total reviews).
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_panther_2018
Currently at 87/100 on MetaCritic (based on 22 reviews)
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/black-panther?ref=hp
Man, I can't wait for Black Panther. I love Marvel's usual lifting of the review embargo earlier than later, but that still means I've got to wait well over a week to actually see it myself.
Kendrick Lamar's "Black Panther: The Album" releases on Friday, and NPR interviewed Black Panther director Ryan Coogler to discuss how the album came together. It sounds like Marvel gave Coogler a lot of creative freedom for the soundtrack and this could prove to be the most original soundtrack in all of the MCU. Another interesting tidbit is that the instrumental score of the movie was composed by Ludwig Goransson, who is a frequent collaborator with Childish Gambino
https://www.npr.org/sections/therec...res-how-black-panther-the-album-came-together
https://www.npr.org/sections/therec...res-how-black-panther-the-album-came-together
For you 4K aficionados, it looks like Marvel Studios is starting to roll out 4K UHD releases of past MCU films.
Pre-orders are up on Amazon for The Incredible Hulk, which will be released April 10. This is the only confirmed Phase 1 film with a 4K release, thus far.
Pre-orders are up on Amazon for The Incredible Hulk, which will be released April 10. This is the only confirmed Phase 1 film with a 4K release, thus far.
Yeah, we'll see on that one to see if any other ones actually come out any time soon. The Incredible Hulk being released in Blu Ray might be kind of an anomaly for now beings how it is the lone wolf movie left where Marvel/Disney DOES NOT own its distribution rights, Universal does. Therefore, it is Universal choosing to do this 4K release, not Disney. It also isn't any secret that Disney has been pretty much the last studio to shift anything to 4K UHD Blu Ray. It wasn't until just recently that they started to release all their new movies in 4K, much less all the older ones.
Since I don't know where to put this yet, I'm putting it here. The following is the first Venom trailer to be released:
Apparently, there is some pretty strong backlash by fans that the trailer does not even once show Venom. Overall, I still enjoyed the trailer and think it looks good. Ultimately, it seems the main reason they don't show Venom is because they just wrapped filming like two weeks ago and the special effects aren't done yet, but they still wanted to get a trailer in that could be attached to Black Panther.
Apparently, there is some pretty strong backlash by fans that the trailer does not even once show Venom. Overall, I still enjoyed the trailer and think it looks good. Ultimately, it seems the main reason they don't show Venom is because they just wrapped filming like two weeks ago and the special effects aren't done yet, but they still wanted to get a trailer in that could be attached to Black Panther.
This is true, but I have noticed that there has been a push to re-brand (or at least re-skin) the box-art on past MCU films so that they all say "Marvel Studios." This logo is visible on the box art for 4K Incredible Hulk, so Disney worked with Universal on getting this to market. Hopefully they start doing the same for their other films.
Original Iron Man Box Art and "Re-Branded" Marvel Studios Iron Man Box Art:
I started a "Sony - Marvel Films Thread" that got bumped off the front-page. I wasn't sure where to put this trailer, either. I think eventually Sony will shoehorn their way into the MCU with a Tom Holland/Spider-Man cameo. This trailer was just a teaser, so it's all just overreaction. I was mostly impressed with Tom Hardy's accent for Eddie Brock, everything else was "meh"
This is true, but I have noticed that there has been a push to re-brand (or at least re-skin) the box-art on past MCU films so that they all say "Marvel Studios." This logo is visible on the box art for 4K Incredible Hulk, so Disney worked with Universal on getting this to market. Hopefully they start doing the same for their other films.
Original Iron Man Box Art and "Re-Branded" Marvel Studios Iron Man Box Art:
Yeah, what is going on there with the re-releasing of a lot of those older ones is interesting. At first, Marvel owned production rights (hence the Marvel Studios logo) on all those first movies (Thor, First Avenger, Avengers, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk), but did not own distribution rights. Paramount owned the distribution rights to all of those except Incredible Hulk. However, since then, Marvel has spent a pretty penny to actually buy back all the distribution rights from Paramount, but have still been unable to buy back The Incredible Hulk's rights from Universal (Universal refuses to play ball). Therefore, this newfound distribution ownership by Disney I'm sure has played a part somewhat in some of this re-releasing, however, I was still a bit surprised at the coinciding cover-art for Hulk. At the same time, Marvel Studios did produce that film still, so I'm just guessing Universal is just willingly playing ball with Disney on the cover art. Its also worth noting that Disney's inability to buy the Hulk solo film distribution rights is also why we have not seen another solo Hulk movie since. Ever since Disney bought Marvel, Disney wants to do everything wholly by themselves, even to the point that they bought back all those old distribution rights prior to their Marvel purchase.
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I got the chance to see Black Panther last night, so I figured I'd post my usual review for those interested (non-spoilery). Overall, I liked the movie, but just didn't love it. Starting off with the good stuff, I thought the characters were great, particularly Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther, Letitia Wright as Shuri, and Michael B Jordan as Killmonger. There was clear motives behind everyone. Shuri added some fun to a movie that needed something lighter, T'Challa was solid, even though I actually liked him more in Civil War, and I thought Michael B. Jordan was one of the better Marvel villains out there. Like the Vulture in Spider-Man Homecoming, Killmonger was a sympathetic villain with clear motives. Secondly, what was pretty good characters also led into a pretty decent story overall too. One kind of weird thing that throws you off at first is that this movie doesn't even really have the feel of a superhero movie, but is more like an Afro-black culture battle for kingship, power, and against racial injustices, with a bit of a James Bond flare. This was not what I expected at first, but once you adjust those expectations, it isn't too bad. Lastly, I do love the fact that this movie is a unabashedly an Afro-black culture movie with no attempt to be anything different. As a 33-year old white male, I have my superheroes and now it is time for others to get theirs. So, at its core, the strengths of the movie by far was its solid story and great characters, which is kind of what Marvel does best and par for the course. As for anything above par, I'd probably throw the villain on there, which is somewhat a testament to Killmonger, but also somewhat a testament to a long legacy of below-par Marvel villains.
Moving on to the not-so-good, while I found the story to be solid, something just seemed really off on the pacing. For one, did anyone else find the first 30 minutes of the movie to be SUPER SLOW??? Compared to other Marvel movies, this one took me a long while to get into, and maybe that was partially due to the expectation adjustments I mentioned up above, maybe not. Even the rest of the movie did and didn't flow like I expected, which at this point, I still just can't pinpoint why. Moving on, while there were characters I loved, there were others I found to just be alright and somewhat overrated like Lupito Nyong'o's Nakia, Danai Gurira's Okoye, and Daniel Kaluuya's W-Kabi. I know some people will call me crazy as these are probably some of the best actors in the movie, but I almost found their roles somewhat forced at times. Shoot, I almost forgot Okoye and W-Kabi had a relationship throughout the movie, and there was just something unnatural to me with the the two women's battle warrior roles. I'm a big Danai fan and I love her similar role in The Walking Dead much more than her role here. Again, I seem to be in the minority here and recognize that. Its just how I felt. Lastly, probably my biggest disappointment from this movie was actually all the action scenes believe it or not. For one, I loved how grounded, yet powered the Black Panther we saw in Civil War was, but this movie takes him to levels that are a bit too high and over-the-top for me, mostly due to his new suit (felt somewhat the same way in Spider-Man Homecoming). Minus the flying, the dude it pretty much invincible Superman now with no consequences to anything (example: falling scene), not to mention his ability to leap and fly around now has gone about 3 levels up. I get that they are trying to prove their advanced technology levels, but sometimes simpler is a bit better. I loved his part in Civil War more so than in this movie. Secondly, to combine with that same over-the-top action came a lot of sub-par CGI in my mind, and I think the first problem somewhat fed the second one. The more you get out there, the more you have to use CGI in lieu of practical stunts. Shoot, add in the new color energy blaster component to his suit and at times, I swear I was watching Tron and not Black Panther, which I didn't find to be a good thing.
In the end, it is a good thing this movie relied more on its story than the action as I haven't been this disappointed in Marvel's action sequences since Age of Ultron, and both Ultron and this movie fell into some of the same pitfalls. Maybe me not loving it was also a part of too high of expectations fed by widespread media positivity, particularly on Rotten Tomatoes. As much as I hate to say it and as much as people probably would not admit it, like The Last Jedi, I do suspect that this movie's positive reviews may be a bit shaded by happiness surrounding some of its progressive agendas more so than just analyzing the movie for what it is. It is a good story and good movie, but just not a great one, at least in my eyes. Then, after that, the poor action takes it down another notch. Now, that isn't to discount some of the cool things this movie does through its themes and representation because a lot of those things are just great in their own regard.
Again, I'm a 33 year old middle-class white dude who has seen myself represented countless times in TV and movies for my entire life, while others have not. This is their time and it is long overdue, at least as a main character. I'll even admit that there is probably a significant part of why I didn't love this movie was probably due to the fact that I am not the target audience, and that is okay, and kind of weird to say for a Marvel movie, which are known for being as widespread targeting as possible with their audiences (they like to make lots of money). Maybe it is cool to see them being okay with a narrower target this time to make up for some things that are overdue. This movie is what it is and isn't ashamed of it, so at a minimum, I respect that. For those who absolutely loved it, I'm happy for you guys. For me, I'll be tossing it into the fairly wide good, just not great category, similar to its other peers like Dr. Strange and Age of Ultron. That isn't anything to scoff at either as I still love watching good movies.
Moving on to the not-so-good, while I found the story to be solid, something just seemed really off on the pacing. For one, did anyone else find the first 30 minutes of the movie to be SUPER SLOW??? Compared to other Marvel movies, this one took me a long while to get into, and maybe that was partially due to the expectation adjustments I mentioned up above, maybe not. Even the rest of the movie did and didn't flow like I expected, which at this point, I still just can't pinpoint why. Moving on, while there were characters I loved, there were others I found to just be alright and somewhat overrated like Lupito Nyong'o's Nakia, Danai Gurira's Okoye, and Daniel Kaluuya's W-Kabi. I know some people will call me crazy as these are probably some of the best actors in the movie, but I almost found their roles somewhat forced at times. Shoot, I almost forgot Okoye and W-Kabi had a relationship throughout the movie, and there was just something unnatural to me with the the two women's battle warrior roles. I'm a big Danai fan and I love her similar role in The Walking Dead much more than her role here. Again, I seem to be in the minority here and recognize that. Its just how I felt. Lastly, probably my biggest disappointment from this movie was actually all the action scenes believe it or not. For one, I loved how grounded, yet powered the Black Panther we saw in Civil War was, but this movie takes him to levels that are a bit too high and over-the-top for me, mostly due to his new suit (felt somewhat the same way in Spider-Man Homecoming). Minus the flying, the dude it pretty much invincible Superman now with no consequences to anything (example: falling scene), not to mention his ability to leap and fly around now has gone about 3 levels up. I get that they are trying to prove their advanced technology levels, but sometimes simpler is a bit better. I loved his part in Civil War more so than in this movie. Secondly, to combine with that same over-the-top action came a lot of sub-par CGI in my mind, and I think the first problem somewhat fed the second one. The more you get out there, the more you have to use CGI in lieu of practical stunts. Shoot, add in the new color energy blaster component to his suit and at times, I swear I was watching Tron and not Black Panther, which I didn't find to be a good thing.
In the end, it is a good thing this movie relied more on its story than the action as I haven't been this disappointed in Marvel's action sequences since Age of Ultron, and both Ultron and this movie fell into some of the same pitfalls. Maybe me not loving it was also a part of too high of expectations fed by widespread media positivity, particularly on Rotten Tomatoes. As much as I hate to say it and as much as people probably would not admit it, like The Last Jedi, I do suspect that this movie's positive reviews may be a bit shaded by happiness surrounding some of its progressive agendas more so than just analyzing the movie for what it is. It is a good story and good movie, but just not a great one, at least in my eyes. Then, after that, the poor action takes it down another notch. Now, that isn't to discount some of the cool things this movie does through its themes and representation because a lot of those things are just great in their own regard.
Again, I'm a 33 year old middle-class white dude who has seen myself represented countless times in TV and movies for my entire life, while others have not. This is their time and it is long overdue, at least as a main character. I'll even admit that there is probably a significant part of why I didn't love this movie was probably due to the fact that I am not the target audience, and that is okay, and kind of weird to say for a Marvel movie, which are known for being as widespread targeting as possible with their audiences (they like to make lots of money). Maybe it is cool to see them being okay with a narrower target this time to make up for some things that are overdue. This movie is what it is and isn't ashamed of it, so at a minimum, I respect that. For those who absolutely loved it, I'm happy for you guys. For me, I'll be tossing it into the fairly wide good, just not great category, similar to its other peers like Dr. Strange and Age of Ultron. That isn't anything to scoff at either as I still love watching good movies.
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