Yes he isn't great. But I'll take a stinky LG over a stinky LT any day. What Thuney is doing is amazing.
NFL: Kansas City Chiefs Thread
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Same name, different plays. Hurts goes straight ahead and low, Allen goes left and high.
When only Philly ran it, I thought there may be a chance they ban it because it was practically unstoppable.
But now that more teams are running it and failing, I don't see it going away anytime soon.
All they have to do is change the rule back to you can't push the ball carrier and it won't be as effective. Heck, they still have the part of the rule where offense can't pull the ball carrier forward and Buffalo did just that on a play in each of their first two playoffs games. The officials even said, yes it is a penalty, but since we haven't enforced it all year, they wouldn't for the remainder of the season. Luckily, I don't think I saw Buffalo blatantly do that yesterday.
We'll never know if he got it or not. I can tell you the official who spotted him short was in a way better position to see. There is no way in hell the official who gave it to him had a clue where the ball actually was. The truth is likely somewhere in between.
KidSilverhair
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I don’t know, the official who spotted him short had a Chief (Jones, maybe?) just standing there blocking his view of the ball. The ball itself was shielded from the one official by Allen’s back, and from the other by that Chiefs player. Neither one actually could see if the ball crossed the line.
Nor could you tell on the replay, although using physics and common sense, seeing where Allen’s head/body advanced to would make it a fair assumption to say the ball reached the line to gain. But there’s no actual proof either way, so … /shrug/
In the aerial photo you can see jones foot is directly on the line and it doesn't look like the ball is to Jones imo. It's incredibly close and literal inches though. If chiefs got anything 50/50 it was going to be discussed at naseum and this was that.
The worst call of the whole game imo is the pass interference on mcduffie on Mac Hollins td before half. It didn't matter in the game as he caught it but when ref throws that flag he doesn't know that. If the refs are trying to favor the Chiefs why would he throw that flag? That would of been 40 yards 1st goal at the 1 when buffalo was up against the clock
Forgive me for being pedantic. And I’m able to forgive and move on if you misspoke.
But you said “they’re not the best team” which would mean there are teams that are better/best in the league.
Totally agree that most talent does not = best, nor guarantee most success*. And that key generational talent can cover up, elevate excellence from talent that would be mid with another team.
*Brock Purdy says hello to Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mitch Trubisky…etc
That had to be the loudest I’ve heard it inside Arrowhead in the 4th towards the end. Absolute Bananas.
I was at both playoff games and it was pretty loud yesterday. Bengals game 2 years ago was the loudest I've heard it in this era. I was down low at all of them. The loudest I've ever heard it there ever was the 2003 Colts playoff game and I was actually in the upper corner. When Dante Hall ran that kick back to get them back in the game the entire structure was shaking. When the Colts got the ball back the first couple plays of their drive were the loudest I've heard the crowd get for the D. Some say the loudest Arrowhead ever got was when Vanover took the punt return back to win the game against the Chargers in OT in 95. I remember staying up watching them comeback and win the game. That 95 team didn't give up a 2nd half touchdown in what was an NFL record (I believe) 8 straight games. That was the year we were the #1 seed and the Lin Elliot game against the Colts when Lin Elliot missed 3 field goals. '95 and '97 we were the number #1 seed but the Colts game was a way bigger kick in the nuts than '97. We were the best team in the league. Tbh in '97 even though we won the division and had home field I didn't think we were as good as Denver. That was the year we beat them in KC in reg. season on Stoyanovich 54yd field goal. We might have won it that year if we would have just started Gannon in the playoffs instead of Grbac coming off the injury. The memories and nut kicks of years past were still painful up until a few years ago still. Soak in every bit of this run guys! The Patriots were never even this dominant consecutively. To do this in the salary cap era is ******* unreal.
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You can win games and not be the most talented team in the league, is what I am saying. Talent wise the Chiefs do not have the best in the league, they win because they have the best QB and the best head coach. What position group do the Chiefs have the best group of any in the league, none but QB. We have average RB's, very good OL between the center and guards but are horrible at tackle. our WR are average at best. Same on the DL, Jones is great, Karlaftis has really come on, McDuffy is the one of the better corners in the league, but we have struggled finding a 2nd one. Sometimes the team is better than the talent they have, that is the Chiefs and its because of Mahomes and Reid.
If the two were equal, best team is always the most talented, then teams like Georgia and Alabama would win the championship every season, year after year. The NFL is set up to create parity within the league, the salary cap, schedule the drafting order, are all rules that keep teams from dominating the league year after year. Two teams the Chiefs and Pats have figured out to continue to win, while losing talent.
According the players, the Ravens had 9 pro bowl selections, Lions had seven, and the Eagles and Vikings had six. The Chiefs and Cowboys had five. So the players in the league say the Ravens. Separate talent and winning, that is the key, the best roster does not always win, if they did the 49ers and the Eagles would have both beaten the Chiefs in the super bowl, while neither did.so who's better than the Chiefs?
As a whole the Chiefs have pretty good collection of talent. Chris Jones is on of the best DT in the game, Karlaftis is becoming one of the better edge rushers in the AFC, Kelce is on the decline but he's still one of the best TE in the game, and when Thuney is not playing LT there may not be a better interior OL with Thuney, Humphrey, and Smith who all made the Pro Bowl this year. McDuffie is another guy that is becoming a lockdown CB too.
And speaking of LT... hopefully the Chiefs can shore that up in the offseason. Taylor is still eating up a lot of $ at RT and has been a terrible signing which is really limiting them to be able to spend on upgrades at the tackles. Taylor is the 3rd highest paid player on the Chiefs unfortunately. They can't get out from him until after 2026 when he'd cost only a $7.4 mil dead cap it instead of nearly $35 mil dead cap hit they'd take if they cut him now.
Yep, the Chiefs have a talent roster, just not the most talented. I mean when you look at what they accomplished this season, OT problems all season, injuries to the kickers, losing your two best WR's for much of the season, losing your starting RB for half the season, to be going to the SB is unfreaking believable. Throw in Kelsey had an unKelsey like year, Mahomes was not throwing the ball all over the place, they just kept winning. Need to block a FG to beat Denver, no problem. We just need to keep the magic going one more game.
Talent is obviously the name of the game but it's a "stars" league. The Bulls were not as talented top to bottom as the Suns, Sonics,and probably not even the Jazz. They had 23 though. I'm not trading a guy like Chris Jones for 3 B+ defensive tackles. A guy that dominant is a massive advantage. Guys like that take over games.
I disagree about the NFL. It's a stars league in the NBA, but in the NFL with all of the injuries you need a culture and a full roster.
A DT that requires a double or even triple is the best asset any defense can have. Then add a lockdown corner you can trust to put on an island allows you a lot of freedom to use the safety on his side a lot of different ways.
Rewatching for the first time since you can miss a lot in person. Chris Jones was a monster. He was very emotional at the end of the game.
The offense was cookin’ all night.
The offense was cookin’ all night.
