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[weR138]

From about January 1979 until fairly recently, ISU did not prioritize football in a way that other schools that WON LOTS OF GAMES did.

Exactly right, and the timing couldn't have been worse. Just as college football started it's growth and expansion on TV (including cable) and with more Bowls we let Earle Bruce go and replaced him with guys half his talent level and didn't even support them. Meanwhile, in Iowa City they did the opposite and now see the benefits every year financially and on the field.

 

[NorthCyd]

Jamie Pollard has plans. Finding a pedestrian bridge is the key. Until we get million$ for that, the plans are just dreams.

Find a pedestrian bridge? Do used ones pop up at Restore on occasion or something?

 

[Cycsk]

Find a pedestrian bridge? Do used ones pop up at Restore on occasion or something?

Oops. "Funding" a pedestrian bridge.

 

[jdcyclone19]

I don't see what's stopping the athletic department from allowing parking on these intramural fields if the need is there in the future. Hell, granted they have twice as many people show up on Saturdays in the fall, Michigan has people park on a golf course fairway. Obvioulsy, they'd have to take note of the conditions as they already do with the existing grass parking, but it could be plausible for high demand games, like the Iowa game where a good chunk of people come to Ames to just tailgate.

These fields are used for sports, like soccer. They put a lot of effort into maintaining a great playing surface. Allow vehicles to park on these fields would be an absolute horrible idea. Have you ever tried to get a rut out of a playing surface before? Michigan has plenty of money to let people park on a fairway that only impacts 1 sport in 1 one spot, ruining one spot of these fields could ruin many activities.

As it was previously mentioned Rec Services owns those areas and not Athletics. Rec Services does not want to put their investment at risk.

 

[Cycsk]

As it was previously mentioned Rec Services owns those areas and not Athletics. Rec Services does not want to put their investment at risk.

And you have to think there are lots of institutional politics at work too. I imagine that Athletics and Rec Services clash on a few things, such as scheduling and paying for shared facilities.

 

[jdcyclone19]

In regards to a pedestrian bridge, there was study done somewhere, that they actually decrease the safety of people.

Reasons:
People still go around the bridge because its quicker when full and play frogger.
Traffic is moving at a faster pace.
More people actually fall going up and down the stairs to the steps. Increase in smaller/less costly injuries.

In summary, its a high cost for little reward, if you take out the major outliers of catastrophic events.

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

Find a pedestrian bridge? Do used ones pop up at Restore on occasion or something?

Maybe Franz Harary can help

 

[jdcyclone19]

And you have to think there are lots of institutional politics at work too. I imagine that Athletics and Rec Services clash on a few things, such as scheduling and paying for shared facilities.

Exactly, here is one example.

You have a nice pristine soccer field and you allow vehicles on it. There is now a small rut or hole in the field that wasn't there before and a player breaks an ankle. Who is responsible for paying for that injury?

 

[Cycsk]

Exactly, here is one example.

You have a nice pristine soccer field and you allow vehicles on it. There is now a small rut or hole in the field that wasn't there before and a player breaks an ankle. Who is responsible for paying for that injury?

They probably already fight over who has to pick up the trash from G-7 tailgaters that gets left on the intramural fields as they pass back and forth.

 

[IcSyU]

When I was in school rec services and athletics were working on exchanging land so athletics would have the intramural fields. I believe the land that was going to be swapped was where the Cyclone Sports Complex sits now. Rec Services wanted an artificial surface and lighting so they could maintain the same volume of activities with less space.

Somehow the neighborhood got wind that it was in the discussion stages and stepped in and said they had no desire to have lights on at the complex until midnight every night and the discussion died.

 

[beentherebefore]

In regards to a pedestrian bridge, there was study done somewhere, that they actually decrease the safety of people.

Reasons:
People still go around the bridge because its quicker when full and play frogger.
Traffic is moving at a faster pace.
More people actually fall going up and down the stairs to the steps. Increase in smaller/less costly injuries injuries.

In summary, its a high cost for little reward, if you take out the major outliers of catastrophic events.

And it seems to me that a tunnel would not work since it is would likely flood.

 

[Remo Gaggi]

Can I assume the Reiman Gardens project in the former parking lot is finished? I always tailgate in the north lot and never come in that direction.

 

[BigJCy]

Can I assume the Reiman Gardens project in the former parking lot is finished? I always tailgate in the north lot and never come in that direction.

Yep, it is finished. Put me down as "meh" on it....I think Pollard agrees with me.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Yep, it is finished. Put me down as "meh" on it....I think Pollard agrees with me.

Yeah, I imagine they wish they wouldn't have given up the space.

 

[AttackOfTheClones]

After your $100 million donation check clears.

lol I hear ya

~ The pressbox has to go. It's sub-MAC conference. The SEZ should of been grandstands only, with a concourse.
~ Triple the size of the press box and have the indoor club area integrated w/in the pressbox.
~ The SEZ stands are NEVER more than 70% full, because weeny fans hang out inside the club section if it gets over 80 degrees, or under 60 degrees. Why even go to the game?

 

[Cycsk]

Yeah, I imagine they wish they wouldn't have given up the space.

Yes, its done, but I'm not sure "what it is" or how it is going to be used. For instance, are they going to let people tailgate on it? Or save it for rentals, like for weddings?

It doesn't seem to fit with Reiman Gardens or the stadium.

One of the strange things is a large concrete circle that has something arching over it with a large suspended metal piece. Looks like a misting station for RAGBRAI.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

I can tell you that is not part of the ISU master campus plan.

I know its not, but it should be. We are fast approaching the point where parking at ISU football games is going to become more difficult with each passing season. Record attendance is a good thing, just like winning. But if we do not do something, we are going to end up like Iowa, where you park a mile away from the stadium at the golf course or at the mall and ride the train, and we do not have a train.

I get it, the univeristy wants that green space, its also close to the creek that runs to the east. But what happens in 5 years if we keep winning and people are saying "its a great game day experience, but the parking is horrible and its just easier to sit at home and watch the game on my 65 inch 4K tv?"

 

[Cycsk]

I know its not, but it should be. We are fast approaching the point where parking at ISU football games is going to become more difficult with each passing season. Record attendance is a good thing, just like winning. But if we do not do something, we are going to end up like Iowa, where you park a mile away from the stadium at the golf course or at the mall and ride the train, and we do not have a train.

I get it, the univeristy wants that green space, its also close to the creek that runs to the east. But what happens in 5 years if we keep winning and people are saying "its a great game day experience, but the parking is horrible and its just easier to sit at home and watch the game on my 65 inch 4K tv?"

"Parking is horrible." Hard to imagine anyone ever saying that about Jack Trice Stadium. Perhaps when we add a third upper deck and another 50,000 seats! Until then, I think our parking will be sufficient . . . and fabulous.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

These fields are used for sports, like soccer. They put a lot of effort into maintaining a great playing surface. Allow vehicles to park on these fields would be an absolute horrible idea. Have you ever tried to get a rut out of a playing surface before? Michigan has plenty of money to let people park on a fairway that only impacts 1 sport in 1 one spot, ruining one spot of these fields could ruin many activities.

As it was previously mentioned Rec Services owns those areas and not Athletics. Rec Services does not want to put their investment at risk.

They have soccer fields directly east of the dorms, can the university not open up that facility to the students when the soccer team is not using it?

Look football is paying the bills here, just like any other university. Its not the soccer team, or golf team or even the woman's bb team, and its sure not intermural kids paying for the sports program.
The basketball practice facility is all the way to the West, and it works out fine for the bb players, but students can not leave Willow and Larch and get out half that distance to the cross country course. With multiple cyride buses stopping in front of the dorms every few minutes.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

I know its not, but it should be. We are fast approaching the point where parking at ISU football games is going to become more difficult with each passing season. Record attendance is a good thing, just like winning. But if we do not do something, we are going to end up like Iowa, where you park a mile away from the stadium at the golf course or at the mall and ride the train, and we do not have a train.

I get it, the univeristy wants that green space, its also close to the creek that runs to the east. But what happens in 5 years if we keep winning and people are saying "its a great game day experience, but the parking is horrible and its just easier to sit at home and watch the game on my 65 inch 4K tv?"

Iowa State already has the parking capacity to handle a sellout. The only time parking is an issue is for the Iowa and UNI games because there are a ton of people that just come to tailgate. The grass lots can be an issue when we have had too much rain but for the most part Iowa State's parking situation is fine.