J'Den Cox

[SouthJerseyCy]

Thought this deserved its own thread, please merge if appropriate.

The story that is out there now is that Cox arrived at the facility around 7:25AM and was told by his coach, Kevin Jackson, that weigh-ins were 8:00-8:30.
At 8:04 he stepped on the scale a tenth or so over, worked out for a bit and at 8:13 was a tenth under.
The posted rules state that the weigh-in must be completed 2 hours before competition starts, which was 10AM.

If KJ was just Cox's personal coach, he may be out of luck. However, KJ also happens to be an employee of USA wrestling, so it could appear that J'Den
got his info from the org.

This whole thing sucks and as much as I don't think anyone should get special treatment, I also selfishly want to see Cox vs. Snyder.

 

[cyputz]

NBC Sports had an interview with J’Den during/after Olympic trials. He was unbelievably classy when describing the issue. So special!!

 

[matclone]

He's always been classy. Two-time world champion, and arguably the best wrestler in the U.S. I can't believe this happened.

 

[CycloneVet]

Needs to be an exception made, it’s not like it was hours late

 

[JM4CY]

He's always been classy. Two-time world champion, and arguably the best wrestler in the U.S. I can't believe this happened.

Maybe I’m too cynical but man, I just find it so hard to believe that an athlete at THAT level made a mistake that trivial in THAT kind of moment.

 

[matclone]

Maybe I’m too cynical but man, I just find it so hard to believe that an athlete at THAT level made a mistake that trivial in THAT kind of moment.

I find it hard to believe this has never happened before (in response to an "it's the rules" <end> argument)

 

[Land Grant]

If things worked out as SJC wrote, there should have been an exception made on the spot. This is P4P best wrestler the US has, and he was given bad information by a USA wrestling employee (which I think KJ is). On the other side, if true this is a terrible look for KJ.

 

[theshadow]

Showed up late, and missed weight. Pretty cut and dried.

 

[brett108]

Showed up late, and missed weight. Pretty cut and dried.

I kind of hope the next time your late for work the boss fires you on the spot

 

[BCClone]

If weigh ins were done at 8, why were they weighing him at all then?

 

[crablegs]

Maybe I’m too cynical but man, I just find it so hard to believe that an athlete at THAT level made a mistake that trivial in THAT kind of moment.

JDEN is a guy who lost a match at the last Olympics because he didn’t know what criteria was. He decided to stall the last minute of a match he was losing.

He is an amazingly talented wrestler, and an awesome person, but it does not seem that he takes the sport as seriously as most at this level.

If KJ gave him the wrong time, he should be fired immediately. This doesn’t remove blame from Cox, IMO. The blind leading the blind in this situation.

 

[WhizzerClone]

Showed up late, and missed weight. Pretty cut and dried.

His weight was where he wanted it to be. Very common for high level wrestlers such as himself to come in that morning couple tenths over. They want to get a good sweat and be at weight afterwards. Just a stupid communication/personal responsibility situation that should have never happened.

 

[JM4CY]

I kind of hope the next time your late for work the boss fires you on the spot

I totally get what your saying but I don’t think this is apples to apples...

 

[theshadow]

If weigh ins were done at 8, why were they weighing him at all then?

Documentation.

 

[theshadow]

I kind of hope the next time your late for work the boss fires you on the spot

If I'd been working on a project for the last 5 years, I'd make sure I knew when the deadline was.

 

[DrizzyCyclone]

Let’s say Cox wins his appeal, what would happen? He didn’t have a bye straight into the best of 3 finals. I can’t see a way that he wins his appeal or has a chance to face Snyder for the spot.

 

[BCClone]

If cox beats Snyder is Kyven kicked off the team?

 

[matclone]

JDEN is...an amazingly talented wrestler, and an awesome person, but it does not seem that he takes the sport as seriously as most at this level.

I'm rather sure he does take it seriously or he wouldn't be a multiple world champion, NCAA champion and Olympic medalist. On the other hand, I'm not sure he would be competitive with all the Monday morning quarterbacks around here.

 

[DantheFan]

I'd be curious to see what kind of schedule the athletes got for the trials.

...maybe they could set up a mini-tourney where Cox has to go through Kyven and Moore to get a shot at Snyder. If Cox loses to either Kyven or Moore, tourney over. If he makes it to Snyder, Moore and Kyven wrestle for the spot on the National team.

And the answer is yes, I do just want to watch more high-level wrestling.

 

[matclone]

Let’s say Cox wins his appeal, what would happen? He didn’t have a bye straight into the best of 3 finals. I can’t see a way that he wins his appeal or has a chance to face Snyder for the spot.

Had he been in the tournament, he would have started in the semi-finals, per page 1 of the Olympic trials thread.