.....to say that Baylor was the better team and deserved to win.
It drove the media crazy
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Idk who “the media” is but that entire broadcast was nothing but complimentary of Baylor.
But but but....the Big 10 is the best...oh never mind.
Because it was an ass-whooping from the start.
But all of the talk all weekend was that Gonzaga was too good and wouldn't have any trouble with UCLA or Baylor.
Even with BU dominating Houston the way they did.
The announcers......yes, they were complimentary, but never uttered the words until they were forced to. This game was far from a fluke. Baylor was flat out the better team.
Honestly I just think a lot of people were rooting for Mark Few, not necessarily against Baylor.
Once they had to be. They were slobbering all over Gonzaga though. Raftery was embarrassing himself with how in the tank for Gonzaga he was.
Man I thought they sounded dejected about Baylor jumping out from the start.
I missed the first 10 minutes, so the game was in ass-whoopin territory by the time I started watching and that may have skewed my view.
I cannot stand Bill Raftery.
An actual buried story is that a conference got a 1 seed, a 1 seed, a 2 seed, and another 2 seed that was barely .500 in conference...and got absolutely obliterated other than one team that made the Elite 8.
Pac's underseeding was as big of a story. We need to shake up the way we select and seed teams. No conference is good enough that teams that are barely .500 should be getting 2 seeds while the regular season champion of other leagues are getting 5s and 7s. Net ranking said Ohio State was #8 with their paltry 12-8 league record so they get a 2 seed. Net ranking said Loyoyla was #10...but somehow no 3 seed for them. The ranking metrics have just become a way to favor pet teams and then ignore it for non-pet teams.
I really don't blame people if they don't want to promote Baylor as a champion since the school probably should have had its athletic department dismantled. I'd treat them similar to if I had to write a story about an organized crime syndicate that is known to be above the law. There are few better examples of why individuals and groups/corporations are absolutely nothing like each other than how Baylor's athletic department got away almost completely with running a rape ring and was basically free to just keep on running.
Pac's underseeding was as big of a story. We need to shake up the way we select and seed teams. No conference is good enough that teams that are barely .500 should be getting 2 seeds while the regular season champion of other leagues are getting 5s and 7s. Net ranking said Ohio State was #8 with their paltry 12-8 league record so they get a 2 seed. Net ranking said Loyoyla was #10...but somehow no 3 seed for them. The ranking metrics have just become a way to favor pet teams and then ignore it for non-pet teams.
I really don't blame people if they don't want to promote Baylor as a champion since the school probably should have had its athletic department dismantled. I'd treat them similar to if I had to write a story about an organized crime syndicate that is known to be above the law. There are few better examples of why individuals and groups/corporations are absolutely nothing like each other than how Baylor's athletic department got away almost completely with running a rape ring and was basically free to just keep on running.
I feel like this might be jumping the gun a bit. The big 10 was overseeded for sure. The pac 12 was underseeded. But a lot of this was due to a subpar data set due to fewer intra-conference games this year.
Ok, ok. From a 10,000 feet level, I tend to agree with you.
Was Baylor the best team in college bb this year?
If you want to change topics, please start a new thread.
Baylor is a more convincing #1 than most years.
People who view it with a little skepticism or distaste have every rational and moral reason to feel that way. It's kind of naive not to.
We're talking about how the media loved Gonzaga and they have always been a likable program...well there are valid human reasons to not randomly jump on the Baylor athletics bandwagon on the flip side of that.
I'm sure if I were covering this game I'd have come off as a huge Gonzaga homer even though part of me wanted people to realize how tough the Big 12 has been these past few years since it went to the 10 team format. A non-KU national champion to go with the other non-KU final four team finally does put a sock in that.
I add up the quantity of overseeded and underseeded by rounds per league almost every year.
A league being way overrated like the Big Ten was does happen, one league drastically outperforming its seeds the way the Pac 12 did this year is quite rare.
There needs to be questions asked like this:
Are there really 24+ teams that are better than a major conference outright regular season champ?
Does this one conference really have 50% of the top 8 teams?
Does a team that only finished 12-8 in its conference really need to be considered a top 8 team when the conference already has 3 other teams seeded even higher?
I feel like they just did a horrible job seeding this year when some basic questioning would have brought things closer to reality.
Love the comments guys.......I really do, but it doesn't change that there was media bias. It was blatant.
I agree the national media wanted Gonzaga to win and didn't hide it much.
It was a lovable program against a criminal syndicate, it's not surprising.
I also think Gonzaga has grown a bit of a national bandwagon fanbase with sustained success and Baylor definitely does not have that, nor would ISU or almost any other non-blue blood program.
What you’re not taking into account is that the Big Ten is an absolute meat grinder and the teams are so worn out from playing top notch competition day in and day out that their worn out by tournament time.
(this is an argument I’ve actually heard the last couple weeks)
Well now the pxp & analyst on TV ...Just go by seedings and preconceived notions about these teams. Think about thee (intentionally misspelled)
UCLA BRUINS A TEN SEED PLAYING IN THE NATL SEMI FINALS. They thought the same thing about them....
On paper they thought Gonzaga was the better team, I thought that IF BAYLOR COULD SHOOT THE THREE'S AND PLAY GREAT DEFENSE THEY COULD BEAT GONZGA....but NOT by Sixteen Points.
From now on anybody who SEZ THAT SCOTT DREW IS A BAD COACH HAS ROCKS IN THEIR HEADS...
Actually I was surprised just about 20 minutes ago, those ESPN radio guys were talking about if Gonzaga had to play in the Big 12 this year and play twice against Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Texas Tech, Texas, etc., there is no way they go undefeated. So, I was glad to see some national media, and ESPN in particular, actually admit that the Big 12 was the true "meat grinder" this year. They didn't actually say that, but by using the Big 12 as the conference that Gonzaga would have struggled in, yeah, that's what they were saying.
