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I think we are gonna see Arizona & Arizona State ranked tonight. That will add a second ranked win for BYU and I could see them jump Bama or at least set up to jump Bama if Arizona beats ASU.

SMU did get in over Bama last year so we’ll see. Bama has the worst loss in the top 15
 
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BCClone said:
Isn’t that the year that we held out incase we won the last game we would win conference and get the orange, but by the time we lost the game the other bowls had already selected?
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I hadn't heard that but sure could have been.
 
Hoggins said:
I think we are gonna see Arizona & Arizona State ranked tonight. That will add a second ranked win for BYU and I could see them jump Bama or at least set up to jump Bama if Arizona beats ASU.

SMU did get in over Bama last year so we’ll see. Bama has the worst loss in the top 15
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I think BYU will jump Bama tonight...but if BYU does not beat TT, they will end up below Bama.
 
chuckd4735 said:
I think BYU will jump Bama tonight...but if BYU does not beat TT, they will end up below Bama.
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Depends on how they lose to TT. Get blown out and they are dropping. Lose a close game and I think they can hang on.

BYU would be smart to drop 50 on UCF this weekend if the opportunity arises.
 
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MugNight said:
Kinda shocked they didn’t rank 5-6 Auburn to give Bama a chance at a ranked win or QUALITY LOSS
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Every loss by Bama is a quality loss!

Remember the first rule - if Bama loses to you, then you must be amazing by default simply because you beat Bama!
 
CascadeClone said:
Every loss by Bama is a quality loss!

Remember the first rule - if Bama loses to you, then you must be amazing by default simply because you beat Bama!
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Not sure what Bama and Miami are complaining about. Bama just lost at home. Miami lost to SMU and Louisville. Yikes. Oh, and Bama got whooped by Florida State. Ask Bama and Miami if Louisville, SMU and Florida State should all be ranked ahead of them.
 
Die4Cy said:
If you go and look at the historical matchups, it's weird. The Liberty Bowl almost always has a decent Power 5 matchup and the only years it doesn't in the past 15 years, ISU gets sent there to play Memphis or Tulsa. You have to think that the Liberty Bowl reps recognize this and would want to avoid that again when considering ISU fan participation. If I were JP that would be high on the agenda when participating in any discussion with them.
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Absolutely no way, shape or form should we accept an invite to the Liberty bowl to play Memphis at their home stadium again. JP needs to teel them if they want to consider us then it better be again someone other than Memphis or we will decline the invite. Been there, done that.
 
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BCClone said:
Isn’t that the year that we held out incase we won the last game we would win conference and get the orange, but by the time we lost the game the other bowls had already selected?
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Iowa State didn't hold out. The Bluebonnet Bowl did. ISU was in line to play in Houston until Oklahoma beat Nebraska.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State knew the Orange tiebreakers were against them with one week left in the season, so they snapped up the Fiesta and Tangerine, respectively.

Then in the final week, Oklahoma's win over Nebraska pushed Colorado into the Orange. That left ISU and Nebraska, and the Bluebonnet took Nebraska.

Had Nebraska won and taken Orange, ISU would likely have ended up in Bluebonnet and Colorado left home at 8-3.
 
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BCClone said:
Isn’t that the year that we held out incase we won the last game we would win conference and get the orange, but by the time we lost the game the other bowls had already selected?
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That was a crazy time, when bowl offers started coming earlier and earlier as the bowl selectors got paranoid at missing out on the teams they wanted. Seems like I remember some bowls extended invites with two or three games left in the season, and ended up getting burned when that team lost games they were expected to win.

That’s where so many conference tie-ins came from, to save the bowls from themselves.
 
KidSilverhair said:
That was a crazy time, when bowl offers started coming earlier and earlier as the bowl selectors got paranoid at missing out on the teams they wanted. Seems like I remember some bowls extended invites with two or three games left in the season, and ended up getting burned when that team lost games they were expected to win.

That’s where so many conference tie-ins came from, to save the bowls from themselves.
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There was an earliest date that bowl offers could officially be extended. Usually, it was the third Saturday of November, at something like 6 p.m. Only the conference champs were tied in to particular bowl games.

Unfortunately, there were also often two other things in play -- (1) back-room deals made well in advance of the "official offer" date, and (2) the fact that the regular season often went until the fourth Saturday of November (and occasionally the first Saturday of December).

ISU accepted the Sun Bowl invite on 11/20/71 (third Saturday of November), with 1 game left.

Same for the Liberty Bowl the following year, except that was on 11/18 with 2 games left. At the time, ISU was 5-3-1 -- but ended up finishing 5-5-1 (5-6-1 with the bowl loss).

That was the same schedule in 1976 -- Nov. 20 was the third Saturday, so bowl invites started going out a week ahead of the Big Eight finale, where 3 teams were still in the mix for the Orange Bowl.
 
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