Sorry I meant two local 'midwest' area teams - not necessary Midwest region. You are correct.
Iowa State and NCAA Path (Potential)
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Sorry I meant two local 'midwest' area teams - not necessary Midwest region. You are correct.
Good info. Lack of quality teams in the Midwest this year which is good for us - although one of the Columbus teams could be sent to DSM instead of the western locations if they get bumped. A top 3-4 seed should put in a very good situation - although not guaranteed.
It is a complete crap shoot on the region unless you are the #1 or #2 seed in the region. UConn was a 10 seed and there was very limited likelihood they were going to make it out of the first two rounds - so don't think there was much thought into what region they were placed in.
They almost always put the top three teams from conferences in separate regions. I think it's a rule if they are top 4 seeds. UConn was slotted in the east but there weren't any AAC teams in the top 4 seeds in the East that year with Cincinnati being the 5th seed.
I know the committee tries to avoid 1st and 2nd round rematches but I can't ever recall hearing this. In 2017 Iowa State would have played KU in the MW Sweet 16 at Sprint Center if we would have beaten Purdue. We tied for 2nd place in the Big 12 that year.
From the official bracketing procedures:
"Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regions if they are seeded on the first four lines.
"Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional final if they played each other three or more times during the regular season and conference tournament.
"Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional semifinals if they played each other twice during the regular season and conference tournament.
"Teams from the same conference may play each other as early as the second round if they played no more than once during the regular season and conference tournament."
So, if this was the case, you'd have the following.
Duke and Virginia in Columbia
Michigan and Tennessee go to Columbus
Kansas and Michigan State to Des Moines
Gonzaga and Kentucky to Salt Lake City
Nevada and Oklahoma to San Jose
FSU and North Carolina to Jacksonville
Texas Tech and Auburn to Tulsa
Virginia Tech and Ohio State to Hartford
This scenario really screws Oklahoma and Kentucky, so what you could see is Oklahoma and Kentucky getting 5 seeds closer to home instead.
Folks on HN think the Hoks will be in DSM after last night's win...
Now, looking at the most recent NET rankings, lets do this again for fun (since it involves Iowa State).
Duke and Virginia in Columbia
Michigan and Tennessee go to Columbus
Michigan State and Nebraska to Des Moines
Gonzaga and Iowa State to Salt Lake City
Auburn and Kansas to San Jose
NC State and North Carolina to Jacksonville
Houston and Texas Tech to Tulsa
Virginia Tech and Kentucky to Hartford
Now the AP Top 25
Duke and Tennesee in Columbia
Michigan and Virginia to Columbus
Michigan State and Kansas to Des Moines
Gonzaga and Mississippi State to Salt Lake City
Nevada and Ohio State to San Jose
Auburn and North Carolina to Jacksonville
Florida State and Texas Tech to Tulsa
Virginia Tech and NC State to Hartford
For Iowa State to get Des Moines, in my opinion they need to be a Top 10 team or a 5 or 6 seed.
One of the problems for Iowa State is that unless Michigan and Michigan State are ahead of Duke, one of them won't be in Columbus. If they can't get Columbus, their next best location is Des Moines. I wonder how strict they will be about Kansas with Des Moines versus Tulsa, since Des Moines is 7 minutes closer than Tulsa.
If Iowa State is a 5 or 6 seed, its possible that they could get Des Moines with Michigan or Michigan State if they are a 3 or 4 seed. If they thought that was too much of a home game for Iowa State, they'd probably send Iowa State to Tulsa.
One thing to remember, with those Top 4 seeds in each region, they are going to do everything they can to not send someone too far. If Iowa State and Michigan were both on the 3 seed line, they aren't going to send Iowa State to Des Moines and Michigan to San Jose. They would send Michigan to Ames and Iowa State to Tulsa, SLC or Jacksonville.
The teams ranked 13-16 on the list are the ones that are going to get screwed by going to SLC or San Jose, since Gonzaga and maybe Nevada are the only schools out that way looking worthy of a seed that high.
Duke and Virginia in Columbia
Michigan and Tennessee go to Columbus
Michigan State and Nebraska to Des Moines
Gonzaga and Iowa State to Salt Lake City
Auburn and Kansas to San Jose
NC State and North Carolina to Jacksonville
Houston and Texas Tech to Tulsa
Virginia Tech and Kentucky to Hartford
Now the AP Top 25
Duke and Tennesee in Columbia
Michigan and Virginia to Columbus
Michigan State and Kansas to Des Moines
Gonzaga and Mississippi State to Salt Lake City
Nevada and Ohio State to San Jose
Auburn and North Carolina to Jacksonville
Florida State and Texas Tech to Tulsa
Virginia Tech and NC State to Hartford
For Iowa State to get Des Moines, in my opinion they need to be a Top 10 team or a 5 or 6 seed.
One of the problems for Iowa State is that unless Michigan and Michigan State are ahead of Duke, one of them won't be in Columbus. If they can't get Columbus, their next best location is Des Moines. I wonder how strict they will be about Kansas with Des Moines versus Tulsa, since Des Moines is 7 minutes closer than Tulsa.
If Iowa State is a 5 or 6 seed, its possible that they could get Des Moines with Michigan or Michigan State if they are a 3 or 4 seed. If they thought that was too much of a home game for Iowa State, they'd probably send Iowa State to Tulsa.
One thing to remember, with those Top 4 seeds in each region, they are going to do everything they can to not send someone too far. If Iowa State and Michigan were both on the 3 seed line, they aren't going to send Iowa State to Des Moines and Michigan to San Jose. They would send Michigan to Ames and Iowa State to Tulsa, SLC or Jacksonville.
The teams ranked 13-16 on the list are the ones that are going to get screwed by going to SLC or San Jose, since Gonzaga and maybe Nevada are the only schools out that way looking worthy of a seed that high.
Yeah, I could see that happening if we get a 4 or 5 seed, Kansas will likely be a 1 or 2. Last time Des Moines got the 4-5 and 1-8 matchups.
Could be that way no matter what if we both get Top 4 seeds? There’s nothing keeping two #3 seeds from being at the same opening round sites (as far as I know). This changed from the old way a few years ago.
I don't think its as much of a lock as you think it is. If higher seeds fill up Columbus and Columbia, then Michigan/Michigan State would end up in Des Moines. Teams that could fill those 2 spots are Duke, Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia Tech NC State.
I think a 3 seed Iowa State likely ends up in Des Moines, but I bet a 4 seed Iowa State is less than 50% chance to get Des Moines.
Just look at the latest Bracketology. Right now, it looks great for a 3 Iowa State to Des Moines. However, if Tennessee, North Carolina or Va Tech jumped Michigan/Michigan State in the pecking order, those 2 would get the Des Moines spot (if they are still higher on the list than Iowa State.
