No, their bonus is usually being done early and hoping that helps get them the next job. Not much negotiating.
I-35 / US 30 Flyover Progress
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Aren't there penalties built in for being late? I know a lot of contracts have that, and I thought I read somewhere that they are getting charged every day past deadline?
Based on what others have said, the bonus of completing early will mean that they will get to move on to their next project sooner. If they are good throughout a year, they may be able to complete a couple more projects than they originally planned for the year, resulting in higher revenue and profit for the firm.
$5500 a day penalty since last year is one big reason.
Some city contracts give incentives to get road construction projects done early. I don't know if the DOT does it though.
Just because a contract includes a penalty provision doesn't mean it gets enforced.
How the FIVE-way stop in Waukee hasn't been mentioned is beyond me. Its next to the high school and two middle schools, and has backups somewhere like 20 cars deep (not an exaggeration either). Can't stand it as I live so close to it that I pretty much have to use it to get to/from home.
Also, why is it that some small towns have too many stop signs, and some don't have any signs at all in the middle of neighborhoods? (Uncontrolled intersections)
Don't even get me started on the mess that is Ankeny. Can you tell I have road rage?
How the FIVE-way stop in Waukee hasn't been mentioned is beyond me. Its next to the high school and two middle schools, and has backups somewhere like 20 cars deep (not an exaggeration either). Can't stand it as I live so close to it that I pretty much have to use it to get to/from home.
Also, why is it that some small towns have too many stop signs, and some don't have any signs at all in the middle of neighborhoods? (Uncontrolled intersections)
Don't even get me started on the mess that is Ankeny. Can you tell I have road rage?
Ankeny's problem in chief is that the town is growing faster than the infrastructure can keep up with. And when they do build roads they don't plan for future growth.
Eh, I'm a big fan of the roundabouts. I live just north of the new high school so use them daily, and 90% of the time I don't stop once on the 3 by the high school. Same thing when I go past Walmart/Menards. Don't use 62nd much, but the times I have I've never stopped as much as I would with a stop sign or light.
And I've yet to see a single accident at one (not that there haven't been ANY). You honestly don't think any traffic engineers were consulted when putting all those in??
Great news. I'm heading up before sunrise to get there before the drunk hoks wake up and hit the road (and any vehicles that get in their way.)
The DOT specs allow for Incentive/Disincentive pay for Early Completion. It's typically used for time sensitive projects.
The problem here is that it wan't written into the Specifications for this project. The DOT simply couldn't predict that the Contractor would be delayed this much in completing the project. They knew it was a complex project that would take a few years to complete, similar to the IA 141 flyover in Urbandale.
There are also ways that Contractors can "negotiate" more money for cost saving ideas called Value Engineering. They have to come up with a proposal stating that they want a certain amount of money, but they have to justify it by stating what the cost savings to the public will be.
The problem here is that it wan't written into the Specifications for this project. The DOT simply couldn't predict that the Contractor would be delayed this much in completing the project. They knew it was a complex project that would take a few years to complete, similar to the IA 141 flyover in Urbandale.
There are also ways that Contractors can "negotiate" more money for cost saving ideas called Value Engineering. They have to come up with a proposal stating that they want a certain amount of money, but they have to justify it by stating what the cost savings to the public will be.
Can you imagine if Deleware was like Duff Ave in Ames with zero frontage roads? Yikes.
I don't hate roundabouts. I don't think they're appropriate everywhere. And I really wish people knew how to drive in them.
My engineers comment was on those choke points on streets. I'm sure the engineers put those in to slow down traffic. But it's dangerous. Two full sized pickups really shouldn't go through at the same time. I don't like it when two regular sized cars meet.
Yep and this literally goes back to like the mid 90's. How they never learn their lesson is beyond me.
I work up there and the roundabouts are money! I don't know why more people don't embrace them.
Except for 36th West of State. I'd hate to be the one mowing that north ROW until it gets made into four lanes.
Gotcha - where are those choke points? I've seen a couple places in the neighborhoods west of Beaver Creek Elementary that narrow at crosswalks, but don't think I've noticed anything else like that?
Compare that to the major project going on down here. It's a $250,000 penalty per day if they miss their date.
Of course, if they're early, they get $250,000 per day for each day they come in early.
