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cybsball20 said:
So then the min should be a $20,000,000 one time donation with at least half of that to a stadium as well.
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I guess you could say that $20 mill might be the number that Pollard would need to see before he got serious about bringing back baseball. I'm sorry, you obviously care a great deal about ISU baseball but I just don't see how it can happen unless we start making more money somehow. Numbers don't lie.

Note that Men's Swimming had an endowment and they still canceled it in spite of the fact that it cost much less each year than baseball did.
 
aauummm said:
You might ask Jamie, he's a CPA and has a very firm grasp of the numbers involved and the federal requirements concerning equality of the women's programs.
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yeah, I'm sure Jamie's not tired of hearing this question. ;-)

Fact is, we have to stop buying out basketball coaches every few years, and win a lot more football games in order to ever field a baseball team. I think we have more than enough women athletes to offset the number of male athletes. It's all about the money needed to field a baseball team...
 
MNCyGuy said:
I don't see JP adding something that he doesn't think has some potential to draw interest. That's why I think hockey would make some sense. If you could keep the current club team base and start grabbing some of the Des Moines Bucs/Iowa Chops crowd I think you could make that a fairly strongly supported program.
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I don't think hockey has any chance to become a varsity sport because it is not an official Big 12 sport. We are already at the minimum number of sports and if we add something we need it to be a buffer to protect wrestling if (when?) that gets dropped from the Big 12. The only reason wrestling is a conference sport now is because the Texas schools made a concession to the Big 8 when they joined. Are there any other conference sports in any conference where less than half the schools participate?
 
william said:
I guess you could say that $20 mill might be the number that Pollard would need to see before he got serious about bringing back baseball. I'm sorry, you obviously care a great deal about ISU baseball but I just don't see how it can happen unless we start making more money somehow. Numbers don't lie.

Note that Men's Swimming had an endowment and they still canceled it in spite of the fact that it cost much less each year than baseball did.
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Like I said, it will take one or two significant donations intended only for baseball. It's certainly not impossible. Baseball is still a strong sport, especially in the Big XII. There could be some TV money available in the near future as well.

I'm still curious just how cheap someone could build a playable dome in Ames.
 
The men's sports at ISU total 125 scholarships (based on NCAA limit for each sport). For women, the number is 111. That means men's sports account for 53% of the available scholarships and the women account for 47%. ISU as a whole is 43.7% female, so there is some room to add up to 18 or so men's scholarships without it being an issue by my calculations.
 
The thing with base ball though are the travel expenses. There are a lot of base ball games to be played and most of those will be away games. I think if we add a sport it's going to be like swimming, tennis, or mens gymnastics. We have the facilities for these already, expenses will be lower and hopefully the loss on these sports is not as great as they are/were as baseball.
 
I thought hockey was one of the more expensive college sports?

Would have loved to go to baseball games at ISU. I also would love to know what a domed stadium would cost. Alternatively, if I ever become a billionaire, the Superfan End Zone and a retractable-roof baseball stadium will be on the top of my list :biggrin:
 
SCNCY said:
I think if we add a sport it's going to be like swimming, tennis, or mens gymnastics. We have the facilities for these already, expenses will be lower and hopefully the loss on these sports is not as great as they are/were as baseball.
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I doubt they would add mens swimming back unless they built a new aquatic facility on campus. The Beyer pool is a very substandard pool, and cramped as well.
It's a tragedy that a new, larger aquatic center had to be cut out of the new rec addition on the west end of campus, like the one Iowa is building.
Pollard just didn't have the money.
 
Tornado man said:
It's a tragedy that a new, larger aquatic center had to be cut out of the new rec addition on the west end of campus, like the one Iowa is building.
Pollard just didn't have the money.
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You are kidding me!! The Iowa Rec Center cost is $53 million and ours is $27 million. Iowa also has a new $15 million tennis and fittness center that ISU has never seen. I thought the State Gym Addition was going to catch us up with SUI not leave us farther behind.
 
Neither pro or con here, but in regards to scholarship numbers-most BB programs normally give partial scholarships and very few full rides. That's why on very small scholarship budgets they are able to carry a large roster. The programs I was close to would carry maybe 50 players and have just a few full rides annually. And alot of college BB revolves around Jr.Colleges which cuts down on expenses for the four year schools. Its a level of weeding out that sends maturer players that are 20 years old and ready to play to the D-1's. Unlike basketball' which is usually because of academics not talent, BB prospects bypass D-1 schollies and go to JC's because they know they will have a better chance of bigger things if they prove themselves at the JC level. Look at the number of pro's from Indian Hills JC compared to ISU. for example.
 
Tornado man said:
I doubt they would add mens swimming back unless they built a new aquatic facility on campus. The Beyer pool is a very substandard pool, and cramped as well.
It's a tragedy that a new, larger aquatic center had to be cut out of the new rec addition on the west end of campus, like the one Iowa is building.
Pollard just didn't have the money.
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It was never intended to have athletics be apart of the new rec centers. One of the reasons a new pool was even considered was because they wanted to get away from the athletics. I could find out, but I am almost sure that no one except the swimmers will be allowed to use the Beyer pool once the new one is open. I was on the committees concerning the rec renovation stuff.
 
william said:
You are kidding me!! The Iowa Rec Center cost is $53 million and ours is $27 million. Iowa also has a new $15 million tennis and fittness center that ISU has never seen. I thought the State Gym Addition was going to catch us up with SUI not leave us farther behind.
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While this is true to a point, that is the cost for building the new addition which was estimated to be 32 million at first. There is still overhead costs that needed to be add and other construction costs from smaller firms that need to be added such as the people clearing the parking lot. So take the 53 million and subtract 5 mil and the actual cost of everything is 48 million now.
 
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